Last September, Ríhanna Kelver was standing outside the Crowbar & Grill in Laramie, Wyoming, preparing to start her bartending shift, when she noticed a group of men across the street. One of them was shouting in her direction, and Kelver heard several homophobic and transphobic slurs as he began approaching her. Moments later, according to court testimony and surveillance footage, the man shoved Kelver to the ground hard enough to injure her tailbone.
Kelver responded by drawing a pistol from her bag, chambering a round, and pointing the weapon at the man who had pushed her. She kept the safety on and never fired. The man and his companions retreated.
Today, Kelver, a 28-year-old trans woman, faces two felony charges—aggravated assault and possession of a deadly weapon with unlawful intent—which could carry up to 15 years in prison. The man who shoved Kelver and who allegedly initiated the confrontation, known only as “S. Durham,” has not been charged.
In 1998 most users here were either toddlers or didn’t exist.
Expecting them to have heard about a specific murder is ridiculous, especially if they’re from a different state or another country.
So it doesn’t matter?
Where did I say it doesn’t matter?
You’re complaining that people don’t know about something that happened 30 years ago, at a time when they were likely very young or didnt even exist.
Not knowing about every single terrible thing that has ever happened on a particular subject doesn’t mean you don’t care about it.
Without googling I bet you wouldn’t know a thing about Holly Chapman and Jessica Wells in the UK, a double murder that happened over 20 years ago.
Or who Dawn Sturgess was.
Both pretty big here, the double murder led to significant changes in the law and procedures for data sharing across the UK.
The difference between us is, you not knowing about it doesnt lead me to the insane conclusion that its because you just don’t care about the subject.
Either you agree that this man’s massacre was a tragedy, or you don’t. As far as I can tell, you are arguing very hard in favor of it, and that, simply because some people were not born before 1998, his death has no meaning. That is the message I am very clearly receiving from you.
I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but I’ve heard enough. I’m just gonna block you now.
So you’re admitting the horrific double murder of two 11 year old girls doesn’t matter?
You didnt know about them so obviously by your logic that means you don’t believe they were a tragedy.