New poll results show 53 percent of those surveyed couldn’t recall struggling harder to make ends meet
A majority of Americans now say the cost of living is the worst they can remember — and most of them blame President Donald Trump for their predicament.
Poll results published Friday by Politico showed 53 percent of those surveyed couldn’t recall struggling harder to make ends meet, up from 46 percent in November.
The poll by Public First also found 46 percent felt Trump was fully or mostly responsible for the state of the economy, unchanged from six months ago.
See, now here we have something that can be empirically proven with data from reliable public institutions. The cost of living for a place, and the people living there; how much money they make, and what they’re buying. All hard numbers.
And yet, we have reporting here on peoples’ opinion about financial situations. The subtext I read in this was that opinions are more important than facts and that reporting on the poll results was of greater import than the horrifying reality of creeping kleptocratic fascist psychopaths getting away with things that are the obvious cause of our limited and declining prosperity.
Here’s the thing, people vote on how they feel. That’s why you poll people in this way. It’s a rather simple concept no need to attach a crazy amount of meaning to it.
Ideally the facts should be reported and people should be polled. Both are vital.
It’s a valid comment, but I disagree that you have to reach that conclusion.
This poll gives a better picture of US citizens’ ability (or lack thereof) to obtain and understand basic facts when you combine it with actual data. I.e., the facts alone tell us only what reality is, and the opinion poll alone only tells us what Americans think, but together they tell us how well-informed Americans are.
That, in turn, helps suggest (even if proof is harder) how effective right-wing information technology is, how seamless the Fox News/influencer/social media info bubbles are.
And, as depressing as it is, opinions (the perceptions of a party’s or candidates’ culpability and capability) decide elections where reality and opinion are in conflict. 2024 proved at least to me that we have reached an inflection point and entered the Disinformation Age, where propaganda actually can consistently win out against reality by sheer flood of disinformation, if it’s not moderated or regulated.
As soon as a news story includes both the feeling and the fact, your comment becomes valid.
I get the snark, but honestly, we are all capable of synthesizing information from multiple sources - a story can be useful even if it supplies just one or more true premises of a valid conclusion.
Fair. Point me to a news story that contains the facts so that I may sufficiently synthesize.
Why should they need to? You’re plenty capable #1 and #2 you were informed of the facts somehow. I’m sure you didn’t come to that conclusion by parsing raw data from consumer reports or the FTC.
Your comments are far too arrogant for how completely ignorant they are.
You wanna know why I believed that America would become a fascist dictatorship 25 years ago? Because of combining my opinion of watching Fox News (considering it to be fascist propaganda) with raw stats, like Fox News being the #1 cable news network, with numerous other opinion polls proving that R’s perception of events were dependent on Fox propaganda, divergent from both reality and D/I opinions of reality. I knew R’s were the most propagandized population in America because other populations opinion polling did not change anywhere near as significantly over time, nor did it mirror the changing narratives of propaganda. These have been reinforced continuously by the vast majority of both polling and other raw stats since then.
In statistics, all data points are some abstract proxy that attempt to measure reality. They are not reality itself, and none of them can be trusted to provide some end all be all proof of reality. Even math itself is an abstract representation (language) we use to understand and communicate.
What you wrote has fuck-all to do with Triumph’s point that the entire media industry reporting on opinions INSTEAD OF facts means it isn’t doing its goddamn job.
If a sufficient portion of the population is ignorant or ambivalent of the fact of our creeping, kleptocratic, fascist, psychopathic, pedophile overlords robbing of us our rights and prosperity then nothing changes. People giving a shit does matter more than facts these days. That’s not a valuation of opinion over fact, more of an observation of how our propagandized population works.
Well, we had the same idiotic bullshit of constantly talking about people’s vibes on the economy during Biden’s term, too, and lots of real thinkpieces about how the Democrats should not dare to bother to talk about facts, but just go with the vibes, and the vibes only, and shame on anyone for talking about reality. Most especially in the run-up to the election of 2024, of course.
I get that you have to poll people for their sentiments, though, but I wish the media would do a better job of explaining to people that there are, indeed, hard numbers we could talk about as well, and “alternative facts” are not a thing.
Of course, the state of media is deliberately degraded. There’s a reason billionaires like to own all the news outlets.
I think it’s because a poll showing that opinions are shifting that way gives people hope about things getting better, because the hope is that public opinion would drive politics.
It wouldn’t really be news to people who are struggling that things are bad. But it is news (and good news at that) if other people’s opinions are shifting to acknowledge that.
Just take it as a description of what people are perceiving, not a way of trying to derive the facts. You’re correct, there is data. If you haven’t figured out by now that data is not what governs people’s perception, then you aren’t paying very close attention. We are in a post-data, post-truth culture where knowing the fact is not enough. You have to poll, separately, how those facts are trickling down to perceptions.
It’s also about driving engagement, a vibes based article about a poll will have a lot more engagement when its shared around social media. Sure you’d still have some people arguing and engaging regalardless, but a large and very vocal portion of the internet has been trained now to just ignore facts that don’t fit their narrative as being funded by George Soros or similar such non-sense, they see a title like “data driven research shows economic conditions worsening in key areas” they skip over it as boring and too complicated to understand, but if they see a title saying americans “feel” a certain way, then they as an american (or someone pretending to be american) can chime in about how they personally dont feel that way and anyone who does feel that way is lazy and stupid, and then it becomes a whole chain of people doing that and others citing factual data which then gets ignored.