• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Again, you’re confusing Trump’s position as a nationalist with being pro-Russian. Trump is not a Russian ally, he already would have pulled out of Ukraine and NATO, and would not be attacking Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela.

    As for the Chilean nationalists, I never said they weren’t working class. I am specifically saying that individual groups can be bad, but if they are fighting against indigenous peoples then this is definitely reactionary. This is why I recommended reading Fanon, I of course oversimplified the situation, and gave the trade union example to illustrate that exceptions exist.

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      Trump isn’t a nationalist though. He is deliberately gutting the United States. The lense of ‘nation vs nation’ is constantly promoted to us through capitalist mass media because seeing the world in this way prevents us from effectively fighting for our own interests. Divide and conquer, it is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

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        49 minutes ago

        Trump is absolutely relying on nationalism, white supremacy, and more, and is using it to support imperialism. I think your understanding of what constitutes nationalism is different from mine, and again, I recommend Fanon.

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          Yes, he uses nationalism to manipulate the masses, but that doesn’t mean he himself believes (and the fact that you bundle white supremacy with nationalism only supports my point that nationalism is a xenophobic ideology).

          Is there a particular work of Fanon’s that you would recommend?

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            You’re mixing belief with Trump’s actual positions, which are nationalist in character. Whether or not Trump believes white supremacism is correct is irrelevant to the fact that his positions are those of a white supremacist. Nationalism is often opposed to the outer, for example Algerians slaughtered any Europeans they saw on sight during the Algerian revolution. It is nevertheless true that this violent national liberation was a progressive movement against colonialism, and was created by colonialism.

            As for Fanon, his masterwork (and the one most relevant to our discussion) is The Wretched of the Earth.