Please actually read what I’m saying. I’m not denying famine happened but the actual causes were not issues with communism or even related to communism but a mix of natural issues and hold over problems from the preceding years that left the country lacking agronomic knowledge and with a tradition of poor reporting to please feudal lords and landlords due to risk of retribution rather than convey accurate information.
Also you should avoid linking NATOpedia it only serves to demean yourself.
The century of humiliation did play a part in it, but it was also a direct reaction to Soviet development polices and of the single party state. Also wikipedia is reliable and it doesn’t worship N.A.T.O as you believe
I have seen them cite Radio Free Asia on multiple occasions. Alongside Epstein island visiting Ghislaine Maxwell best friend Sebag Montefiore also famous for lying about viewing soviet archives. If that’s what you take to be reliable then honestly wow I have no words…
it was also a direct reaction to Soviet development polices and of the single party state.
Word salad. The industrialisation was but again industrialisation doesn’t cause famine generally.
The 3 core factors were natural events, lack of knowledge due to backwardness, and poor reporting traditions.
They pushed for the creation of people’s communes during the great leap forward. Which directly contributed to the famine.
“The early 1950s saw the establishment of agricultural cooperatives, yet these changes brought mixed outcomes. However, the push towards rapid industrialization and the establishment of people’s communes in rural areas were central to the Great Leap Forward, reflecting the government’s belief that collectivization and large-scale projects would boost agricultural and industrial outputs. The communes were meant to centralize farming and labor, supposedly leading to increased efficiency and output; still, in reality, and practice, these measures often disrupted traditional farming practices and led to decreased productivity. Dali Yang stated, “The initial stages of collectivization brought chaos and inefficiency, with agricultural productivity often declining”.”
And since communes were meant to be a form of collectivization. The communes were infact communist
The fact you link Wikipedia to talk about how Wikipedia is reliable is genuinely amazing. “The CIA is so trustworthy they even told me themselves how they only use the best sources”/s. Entirely unserious person.
Again the communes were not the issue communal farming works as shown by it working post famine the issue was the implementation of new farming techniques while lacking the necessary agronomic knowledge to effectively do so. This failing was then worsened by natural disaster and poor reporting tradition as the actual material driving factors of famine. Have you considered actually thinking before posting?
That’s their citation standards they also have a page that says Wikipedia should not cite itself.
Again what they say about themselves is irrelevant. The fact is they constantly cite RFA, scumbag frauds like Montefiore and other entirely unreliable or dare I say dogshit sources. The fact they say they really don’t doesn’t change that.
We can’t forget about the anti-intellectual polices can we?
What do you think lacking agronomic knowledge means? Are you a complete fucking idiot or have you not been reading what I’ve been saying?
And still the one party state need to rapidly industrialize was a driving cause.
And still this is meaningless words salad that says nothing about what actually caused the famine. Which was again lacking agronomic knowledge, natural disaster and poor reporting traditions.
No it’s that the party promoted anti intellectual polices not just a lack of knowledge.
What do you think leads people to promoting anti intellectual policy? Maybe the fact they lacked the knowledge to promote effective policy at the time due to the country being mostly made up of illiterate peasants? How are you this much of an idiot? Do you not think anything through before you post?
inefficiency in a planned economy.
So inefficient it brought the USSR from backwater to superpower in under 50 years and did the same for China. Ronald Reagan is that you?
eliminate sparrows campaign, the four pest campaign
And again we’re back to lacking agronomic knowledge etc etc. 🤦♂️ 😮💨
I understand you have an ideological conviction and years of western chauvinism that are forcing you to try twist this but genuinely the levels of idiocy you are going to is amazing.
Regardless of what Wikipedia says about itself, it favors imperial core perspectives, firstly because English-language Wikipedia is dominated by editors of the Five Eyes states, but also because of its funders and leadership.
Please actually read what I’m saying. I’m not denying famine happened but the actual causes were not issues with communism or even related to communism but a mix of natural issues and hold over problems from the preceding years that left the country lacking agronomic knowledge and with a tradition of poor reporting to please feudal lords and landlords due to risk of retribution rather than convey accurate information.
Also you should avoid linking NATOpedia it only serves to demean yourself.
The century of humiliation did play a part in it, but it was also a direct reaction to Soviet development polices and of the single party state. Also wikipedia is reliable and it doesn’t worship N.A.T.O as you believe
I have seen them cite Radio Free Asia on multiple occasions. Alongside Epstein island visiting Ghislaine Maxwell best friend Sebag Montefiore also famous for lying about viewing soviet archives. If that’s what you take to be reliable then honestly wow I have no words…
Word salad. The industrialisation was but again industrialisation doesn’t cause famine generally.
The 3 core factors were natural events, lack of knowledge due to backwardness, and poor reporting traditions.
And again none of these 3 things are communist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
They pushed for the creation of people’s communes during the great leap forward. Which directly contributed to the famine.
“The early 1950s saw the establishment of agricultural cooperatives, yet these changes brought mixed outcomes. However, the push towards rapid industrialization and the establishment of people’s communes in rural areas were central to the Great Leap Forward, reflecting the government’s belief that collectivization and large-scale projects would boost agricultural and industrial outputs. The communes were meant to centralize farming and labor, supposedly leading to increased efficiency and output; still, in reality, and practice, these measures often disrupted traditional farming practices and led to decreased productivity. Dali Yang stated, “The initial stages of collectivization brought chaos and inefficiency, with agricultural productivity often declining”.”
And since communes were meant to be a form of collectivization. The communes were infact communist
The fact you link Wikipedia to talk about how Wikipedia is reliable is genuinely amazing. “The CIA is so trustworthy they even told me themselves how they only use the best sources”/s. Entirely unserious person.
Again the communes were not the issue communal farming works as shown by it working post famine the issue was the implementation of new farming techniques while lacking the necessary agronomic knowledge to effectively do so. This failing was then worsened by natural disaster and poor reporting tradition as the actual material driving factors of famine. Have you considered actually thinking before posting?
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Again what they say about themselves is irrelevant. The fact is they constantly cite RFA, scumbag frauds like Montefiore and other entirely unreliable or dare I say dogshit sources. The fact they say they really don’t doesn’t change that.
What do you think lacking agronomic knowledge means? Are you a complete fucking idiot or have you not been reading what I’ve been saying?
And still this is meaningless words salad that says nothing about what actually caused the famine. Which was again lacking agronomic knowledge, natural disaster and poor reporting traditions.
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What do you think leads people to promoting anti intellectual policy? Maybe the fact they lacked the knowledge to promote effective policy at the time due to the country being mostly made up of illiterate peasants? How are you this much of an idiot? Do you not think anything through before you post?
So inefficient it brought the USSR from backwater to superpower in under 50 years and did the same for China. Ronald Reagan is that you?
And again we’re back to lacking agronomic knowledge etc etc. 🤦♂️ 😮💨
I understand you have an ideological conviction and years of western chauvinism that are forcing you to try twist this but genuinely the levels of idiocy you are going to is amazing.
Regardless of what Wikipedia says about itself, it favors imperial core perspectives, firstly because English-language Wikipedia is dominated by editors of the Five Eyes states, but also because of its funders and leadership.
Meet Wikipedia’s Ayn Rand-loving founder and Wikimedia Foundation’s regime-change operative CEO
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Does your vague snark have an actual point?