This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes, and really bad policy during a world fuel shortage.

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    11 hours ago

    IDK what the fee is for ICE cars, but here (Denmark) all cars have a yearly fee, but EV is generally cheaper, because the fee is based on fuel economy, and the fuel economy of an EV is way better than ICE.

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      In the US, every car has an annual registration fee (proportional to its value) paid to a state agency. In addition, there are federal and state taxes on each gallon of gas sold meant to be used for maintenance of the roads.

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          Well, the idea of the $130 is it would be changed to EV drivers who are not currently paying the 18.5 cents per gallon federal gas tax. If it’s more or less than that depends on how many miles the ICE cars are driving, but on average it looks like the $130 would be higher than the about $90 most ICE drivers pay in federal gas tax.

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            10 hours ago

            Thanks. 👍

            would be changed to EV drivers who are not currently paying the 18.5 cents per gallon federal gas tax.

            That’s bullshit IMO. That’s like punishing people for buying a car that uses renewable energy, over an ICE stinker that ruins the environment both locally and globally.

            So they continue more than half a century of bad practices.
            My god American law makers are idiots. 😡

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              They’re not idiots; it’s just that the oil industry patronage machine controls a majority of Congress

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              My god American law makers are idiots.

              I mean, no question there.

              But the 18.5 cent tax on gas is meant to pay for the maintenance of roads. And because it’s on gasoline, it traditionally has scaled well with the amount of wear a vehicle puts on the roadway.

              The $130 isn’t meant as “punishment” of EV drivers, only as a replacement of the funds they aren’t currently paying for road maintenance, which they use just as much as ICE vehicles. More-so, actually, as EVs are heavier than ICE on average.

              There can and should be incentives by the government to increase EV adoption, but waiving the cost of road maintenance isn’t the answer.

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                Except that’s not how wear scales.
                Wear is also by weather, and wear from traffic on major roads is mostly from heavy trucks, and the fact that major roads have a lot of heavy truck traffic, also makes the road more expensive to build and maintain.
                Yes there is some justice in taxing the gas when all cars are ICE, but there are many other costs from ICE cars than roads, for instance asthma and global warming.

                In Europe gas is taxed accordingly, to limit the use of it, and USA has failed to do so for decades. The result is that average European cars in general have almost doubly the mileage of American cars, and now that gas is expensive, instead of the price increasing 50% like in USA, it is “only” increasing 20%, and people feel it less, because we drive more economic cars.

                There have been talks in EU that all cars should be equipped with an odometer, and road tax should be based on that.
                But that was years ago, and it seems like the idea is dead for now. But I think for heavy trucks they have something like that in some countries.