• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    Pulling the lever would’ve never stopped the genocide, but derailing the train would have.

    This point is totally useless without a way to derail the train. Not just a vague conceptual idea of what could theoretically derail the train, that’s useless. Without an actual mechanism to realistically do so, sufficient buy-in to implement that mechanism, and sufficient organization to actually follow through on that implementation, this is a totally useless argument. The necessary mechanism, buy-in, and organization does not currently exist. If you lack the ability to detail the train, it doesn’t matter how much better the world would be if the train was derailed. It’s pure fantasy, and it gets in the way of actual realistic praxis.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      The problem is that those organizations are being built as we speak, and so should redirect people to those organizations. That’s realistic praxis. By pretending that these organizations will magically appear one day without needing to life a finger, you’re absolving yourself of the responsibility to do so and are calling “realistic praxis” upholding a genocidal system.

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      7 hours ago

      Just because you can’t imagine getting off your ass and building a better world doesn’t mean that everyone else shares your love for learned incompetence and your defense of fascists.

    • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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      It’s funny how libs always assume that moral objectors aren’t doing anything besides voting. Do you think we aren’t out organizing our communities so that eventually we will have the mechanism to destroy the train?

      And how do you think that mechanism gets built if it doesn’t start with a refusal to get on the train in the first place?

      And finally, if moral objectors are so impotent and meaningless, then why do you keep blaming us for your candidate’s loss?