• half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The implication of sexual attraction being a mental health issue is fraught.

    Before you let someone drag you down that slope it’s important include consent. Someone underage can’t consent to you dipping your balls in their mouth. Same for peanut butter and your pet.

    Folks like to conflate pedo and by extension homo and trans as a mental health issue. Then they try to make an argument about how a trans teen can’t consent to gender care because they’re underage. As if fucking a kid is the same as a kid saying they need help.

    The “pedo and mental health” comment smells like this kind of bait. It doesn’t look exactly like a Nazi, but it kinda smells like one.

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      I definitely understand what you’re saying, but there have to be people who find children attractive but don’t act on it so consent isn’t really the issue there, but we still have the problem of how society sees those people and the possibility of the mental anguish those people must feel. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to be “the worst human trash in the history of the world” while also not behaving in that way. :(

      I guess it’s more of a “them” problem as they aren’t acting on their attractions, maybe society shouldn’t be involved in that one? I don’t know… It just bothers me when I see that kind of hatred when there’s no way 100% of pedophiles actually act on their attractions.

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        Quick reminder of the thread so far.

        Dark humor shitpost about liberts and idf saying 12 yr olds aren’t kids.

        Mild honest defense of libertarianism that either misunderstood or is gleefully playing straight in a shit post about dead kids.

        A dog whistle about pedo healthcare.

        Your thoughtful question.

        Me honestly answering it with a dash of pissposting.

        You asking about the hypothetical ideal innocent pedo and now I’m wondering if you’re shitposting too and I fell for it.

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          No definitely not shit posting lol sorry if it seemed that way.

          I didn’t want to really reveal anything, but this is a personal thing as I know someone who is in this situation. And no I’m not reporting them, that’s not only a literal death sentence for them but I’ve known this person long enough to know they’d never hurt anyone. They opened up about seeing pictures when we were drunk a long time ago and so it bothers me when I see the hatred because I think of my friend so I’m just getting a feel for what people think.

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            Then this sounds like an actual mental health thing and not a dog whistle. I don’t actually have any answers. Just years of experience reading useless internet comments.

            Seek a professional if you can. I don’t even know if you’re in a nation where just looking for help wouldn’t get you or your friend killed. Good luck.

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              Thanks! That’s kind of how I feel too, it’s a really difficult topic because of what was mentioned before as far as connecting mental health to attraction, but there definitely seems to be some forms of attraction that are problematic.

              From what I remember at the time, I believe he said he can’t go get help because they have a duty to report him if he were to bring it up. Anyway, thanks for the time!

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      This is a textbook case of ideological reasoning.

      Instead of reasoning that X is true or false based on evidence that it’s true or false, one reasons that X must be false because if it were true it might encourage thinking Y, where Y is unacceptable.

      Literally the definition of ideologically-motivated reasoning.

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        I like that we’re getting into debate and philosophy in a shitpost.

        There’s this idea that valuable discourse only belongs at universities and in lofty state office. I say it’s here in the shit that we’re shaping tomorrow’s culture.

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      I’m classifing pedophilia as a mental illness yes but transexuality and homosexuality is of course not. When I stated pedophillia I meant the sole attraction to children alone not actions that’s immoral and a crime. I want pedophiles to be able to address this early on and be able to seek treatment.

      Also, what does my comment have to do with nazism at all? I am lib-left. “Smells like one”? For suggesting pedophiles should get mental help? Forgive me but is this a serious accusation or a joke that went past my head entirely?