• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    18 hours ago

    This is the most public I’ve seen someone who actually understands this is “Andes variant”…

    Not just America, but lots of countries are pretending that this is regular Hanta and not the Andes variant.

    Officials keep saying it’s not respiratory, it’s not human to human, and it’s no big deal…

    None of that is true for Andes, and because of that we started studying this variant years ago, because we have no way to fight it, and it could cause a devastating pandemic

    https://news.utexas.edu/2026/03/11/scientists-map-deadly-hantavirus-bringing-treatments-one-step-closer/

    In 2024, the NIH identified several families of viruses — including hantaviruses — that were extremely dangerous and had no effective vaccines or treatments, making them of special concern for their potential to cause a pandemic. To better prepare for future pandemics, the NIH awarded a series of grants through the ReVAMPP program to study these viruses and develop new tools to combat them, including the grant that established the Provident consortium and enabled this latest study. McLellan and other Provident researchers have simultaneously been working to find ways to address other viruses that health officials have identified as especially dangerous in an outbreak, such as measles and Nipah virus.

    Like, multiple people are starting to show symptoms on evac flights, they 100% infected everyone on their plane. But we’re only doing two week quarantines after the flight, and it can take 6 weeks for symptoms and transmission

    We’re fucking it all up again and no one cares, maybe we’ll get lucky, but I don’t think so.

    Edit:

    One Italian started displaying symptoms on the evac flight…

    One Spanish passenger showed symptoms of the flight (but at least used containment pods)…

    One French passenger…

    Two US passengers…

    But we’re all still just doing two week quarantine, this is 100% getting out into the general public.

    I fucking hate being Cassandra

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      17 hours ago

      We use WHO guidelines here, putting the passengers who were brought home in at least 42 days of quarantine. The US, though, now that is a different thing. Maybe they’ll try injecting bleach, like “the greatest mind ever” suggested…

      By the way, our media definitely do inform people that this is a human-to-human transferable virus. Although this was already clear when they mentioned the Andes strain a few days ago.

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      18 hours ago

      Officials keep saying it’s not respiratory, it’s not human to human, and it’s no big deal…

      From what I’ve read, the human to human transmission requires very close contact. I’ve even heard it’s described as “intimate” contact. That seems to me to imply that it doesn’t transmit from human to human very easily.

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        18 hours ago

        What?

        What are you reading?

        As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

        No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

        A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

        I’ve even heard it’s described as “intimate” contact. That seems to me to imply that it doesn’t transmit from human to human very easily.

        All of that is about Hanta in general and true for 99.99% variants…

        But not the Andes variant that everyone is talking about

        Jesus fucking Christ dude, you’re literally doing what the video is saying is the problem…

        Even if you didn’t watch the video, presumably you read the comment you replied to

        I need to understand why you don’t get this so I can help you and others understand it, and obviously my last comment didn’t work.

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          16 hours ago

          As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

          No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

          That’s wrong.

          This spread is usually limited to people who have close contact with a sick person. This includes direct physical contact, prolonged time spent in close or enclosed spaces, and exposure to the sick person’s body fluids.

          Instead of being alarmist, spend some more time reading.

          https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/about/andesvirus.html

          It’s not accepted that Andes can transmit person-person. There are some papers that claim this, poorly done.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34515290/

          Cruise industry is trying to distract from a chronic problem they have with fecal-oral viral transmission and food infected with rodent feces and urine.

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          17 hours ago

          Ok, calm down. Chill, relax, take a breath.

          First, none of this:

          As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

          No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

          A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

          Was in the comment I replied to.

          Apparently it was in the video, but I am not able to watch the video right now. But even if these claims are in the video, that doesn’t necessarily make them true or accurate. And frankly, it would be nice if you offered some kind of substantiation for these incredible claims beyond “watch this YouTube video.” Any kind of credible source.

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            17 hours ago

            The video is Joseph Allen, Professor of Exposure Assessment Science at Harvard University, directly explaining his research and communications directly with the doctor on the cruise ship. I’m not sure you can find a more credible source. It’s not edited clips or anything. A news program invited him on, handed him a mic, and then just let him talk. No leading questions or anything even.

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            17 hours ago

            First, none of this:

            As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

            No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

            A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

            Was in the comment I replied to.

            It literally was…

            Officials keep saying it’s not respiratory, it’s not human to human, and it’s no big deal…

            None of that is true for Andes,

            I’m genuinely asking because everyone deserves to hear this in a way they understand…

            Is the way I wrote that Andes is respiratory, it’s transmissionable to humans, and a big deal just not comprehendable?

            Because I’m already dialing it down a lot, and the issue is if I dial it down too much, there’s no more “why” for why we should be concerned.

            If you so finally understand this, can you phrase it in a way that you would have understood immediately?

            Edit:

            It’s “respiratory” right?

            That means “what we use to breathe” if that is infected, then it can be spread through your mouth holes…

            And not require physical contact.

            Why is this so difficult?

            I only took you off my blocklist because everyone deserves to hear about this, but I’m already starting to figure out why I had to do that now.

            And frankly, it would be nice if you offered some kind of substantiation for these incredible claims beyond “watch this YouTube video.” Any kind of credible source.

            I fucking did…

            https://news.utexas.edu/2026/03/11/scientists-map-deadly-hantavirus-bringing-treatments-one-step-closer/

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              I watched the whole video and several times Allen says “… the overall threat to the general public is low”. He also says “we know very little about the transmission” and “this is not going to be a Covid blow up”.

              Yes, we should take this seriously. But please don’t be overly dramatic when there simply aren’t enough details available yet.

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                16 hours ago

                If one guy on the Titanic said “maybe we shouldn’t hit the iceberg headon”

                That doesn’t mean we’re being careful.

                We’re still headed straight at the iceberg, one guy saying maybe not to didn’t change anything.

                He thinks that people will understand the difference and start treating this like the Andes variant, and that will happen when it’s still just isolated cases and we’ll be able to handle it…

                I don’t trust America’s government agencies run by people like RFK Jr to make the right calls.

                I think the gov will fuck it up, and that makes this go beyond the few isolated cases he’s hoping it stops at

                How much faith do you have in RFK jr to handle this probably? How long do you think before he puts the raccoon penis down and gets directly involved in this?

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              17 hours ago

              None of your claims about transmissibility are in the article you linked to. That article is all about protein complex imaging.

              The source for the claims seems to be the video. Fine. I understand the person in the video is highly accredited. I will watch it when I am able.

              Block me, I don’t give a shit.

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                17 hours ago

                The problem is, you’re repeating dangerous scientific misinformation…

                That could very likely result in actual deaths if anyone is naive enough to listen to you.

                If you can’t understand this, can you at least stop making confident sounding comments that contain dangerous scientific misinformation?

                I don’t know why I blocked you before, but this time you’re causing actual human suffering and death, it’s not just you or if anyone can help you understand.

                It’s now about making sure you stop spreading misinformation that will lead to death and suffering