• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    18 hours ago

    What?

    What are you reading?

    As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

    No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

    A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

    I’ve even heard it’s described as “intimate” contact. That seems to me to imply that it doesn’t transmit from human to human very easily.

    All of that is about Hanta in general and true for 99.99% variants…

    But not the Andes variant that everyone is talking about

    Jesus fucking Christ dude, you’re literally doing what the video is saying is the problem…

    Even if you didn’t watch the video, presumably you read the comment you replied to

    I need to understand why you don’t get this so I can help you and others understand it, and obviously my last comment didn’t work.

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      16 hours ago

      As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

      No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

      That’s wrong.

      This spread is usually limited to people who have close contact with a sick person. This includes direct physical contact, prolonged time spent in close or enclosed spaces, and exposure to the sick person’s body fluids.

      Instead of being alarmist, spend some more time reading.

      https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/about/andesvirus.html

      It’s not accepted that Andes can transmit person-person. There are some papers that claim this, poorly done.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34515290/

      Cruise industry is trying to distract from a chronic problem they have with fecal-oral viral transmission and food infected with rodent feces and urine.

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      17 hours ago

      Ok, calm down. Chill, relax, take a breath.

      First, none of this:

      As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

      No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

      A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

      Was in the comment I replied to.

      Apparently it was in the video, but I am not able to watch the video right now. But even if these claims are in the video, that doesn’t necessarily make them true or accurate. And frankly, it would be nice if you offered some kind of substantiation for these incredible claims beyond “watch this YouTube video.” Any kind of credible source.

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        17 hours ago

        The video is Joseph Allen, Professor of Exposure Assessment Science at Harvard University, directly explaining his research and communications directly with the doctor on the cruise ship. I’m not sure you can find a more credible source. It’s not edited clips or anything. A news program invited him on, handed him a mic, and then just let him talk. No leading questions or anything even.

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        17 hours ago

        First, none of this:

        As the video talks about, just walking within four feet of an infected person is enough for transmission…

        No coughing, no sneezing, not even talking required.

        A dude four feet away is breathing normally and may feel like their allergies are acting up, and that’s enough for you to catch something with a 40% mortality rate …

        Was in the comment I replied to.

        It literally was…

        Officials keep saying it’s not respiratory, it’s not human to human, and it’s no big deal…

        None of that is true for Andes,

        I’m genuinely asking because everyone deserves to hear this in a way they understand…

        Is the way I wrote that Andes is respiratory, it’s transmissionable to humans, and a big deal just not comprehendable?

        Because I’m already dialing it down a lot, and the issue is if I dial it down too much, there’s no more “why” for why we should be concerned.

        If you so finally understand this, can you phrase it in a way that you would have understood immediately?

        Edit:

        It’s “respiratory” right?

        That means “what we use to breathe” if that is infected, then it can be spread through your mouth holes…

        And not require physical contact.

        Why is this so difficult?

        I only took you off my blocklist because everyone deserves to hear about this, but I’m already starting to figure out why I had to do that now.

        And frankly, it would be nice if you offered some kind of substantiation for these incredible claims beyond “watch this YouTube video.” Any kind of credible source.

        I fucking did…

        https://news.utexas.edu/2026/03/11/scientists-map-deadly-hantavirus-bringing-treatments-one-step-closer/

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          16 hours ago

          I watched the whole video and several times Allen says “… the overall threat to the general public is low”. He also says “we know very little about the transmission” and “this is not going to be a Covid blow up”.

          Yes, we should take this seriously. But please don’t be overly dramatic when there simply aren’t enough details available yet.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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            16 hours ago

            If one guy on the Titanic said “maybe we shouldn’t hit the iceberg headon”

            That doesn’t mean we’re being careful.

            We’re still headed straight at the iceberg, one guy saying maybe not to didn’t change anything.

            He thinks that people will understand the difference and start treating this like the Andes variant, and that will happen when it’s still just isolated cases and we’ll be able to handle it…

            I don’t trust America’s government agencies run by people like RFK Jr to make the right calls.

            I think the gov will fuck it up, and that makes this go beyond the few isolated cases he’s hoping it stops at

            How much faith do you have in RFK jr to handle this probably? How long do you think before he puts the raccoon penis down and gets directly involved in this?

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          17 hours ago

          None of your claims about transmissibility are in the article you linked to. That article is all about protein complex imaging.

          The source for the claims seems to be the video. Fine. I understand the person in the video is highly accredited. I will watch it when I am able.

          Block me, I don’t give a shit.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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            17 hours ago

            The problem is, you’re repeating dangerous scientific misinformation…

            That could very likely result in actual deaths if anyone is naive enough to listen to you.

            If you can’t understand this, can you at least stop making confident sounding comments that contain dangerous scientific misinformation?

            I don’t know why I blocked you before, but this time you’re causing actual human suffering and death, it’s not just you or if anyone can help you understand.

            It’s now about making sure you stop spreading misinformation that will lead to death and suffering