A new report by Human Rights Watch argues that the compulsory use of Chinese as the primary language in schools in Tibet raises “serious concerns under international human rights law”.
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Resistance since the uprising of 1959 has persisted under the current Dalai Lama, a “potent force despite decades of propaganda, political crackdowns and education drives aimed at undermining his authority”, living in exile in India.
What authority are they talking about? Are they arguing that education should not be offered and that instead theocratic leadership is what is most important when considering human rights? I think rather the real propaganda comes from the west in favour of a feudal theocracy.
HRW only cares for human rights violations in certain countries. Fuck this imperialistic apparatus.
China’s conduct towards ethnic minorities is pretty bad at times, but this seems pretty lukewarm.
In general it’s lukewarm. The cases that make the headlines are generally extreme isolated examples from what I have found
I’m not defending China’s treatment of Tibetans in general, but a uniform language of instruction is a nothingburger. Not a nothingburger I’m happy about to be clear, but still a nothingburger. Otherwise at least half the world would be engaging in cultural genocide
Otherwise at least half the world would be engaging in cultural genocide
Yes. This is why both nobody cares and it’s a huge deal. We’ve done this to each other for thousands of years. The definition of genocide is the destruction of a culture, it doesn’t have to be killing. It can be this.
I “wonder” whom they got cultural-genocide-methods from…
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hopi+prisoners+in+alcatraz&t=fpas&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
( Hopi men in Alcatraz prison, because they wouldn’t sign their agreement with their children being taken from them, at gunpoint, to be enforced into the residential-“school” institutions ).
Back in the Nuremberg trials, we had the absolute-gall to maintain that MoralLaw, aka NaturalLaw, aka RuleOfJustLaw, “outranks” RuleOfLegalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
Where, in our genociding of Indigenous Peoples & their culture, both before & after, did we demonstrate that principle??
Oh, we “have the right to be 2-faced” … ??
Anybody who’s tried reading Wehle’s book “How to Think like a Lawyer, and Why”, knows that legalism is the whole of the law, & RuleOfJustLaw/MoralLaw/NaturalLaw … hasn’t got any power to outrank precident.
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-think-like-a-lawyer-and-why
( the SCOTUS gutting of the US’s Voting Rights Act stands on legalism, e.g. )
Yes, it is true that I already-know that CCP gaslights about holding to international-law.
My point is that our world holds to “rule of law”, NOT to Rule of Law, & that our pretending otherwise is itself gaslighting.
Yes, Jim Crow 2.0 is being enforced in the US, now.
Yes, ICE is embodying the SAME “principles” in the US that the IDF is embodying in Gaza
( this short, and difficult-to-watch, video explains that … while showing us the murders of ICE, & their other IDF-clone behaviors, … while showing us the IDF’s original-renditions. Please have the guts to see it with your own eyes: it changes one to see & understand, accurately… https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU )
& yes, this supremacism/genociding principle is enacting in Europe ( ask the Ukranians’ stolen children about it ), in Asia ( see the article linked in the OP ), in the Middle-East ( Netanyahu’s “Israel” … I discovered yesterday that the real LivingSpirit-loyal Jews are calling Netanyahu “Amalek”, which is the embodyer-of-anti-Judaism/“Jewish”-evil ) & in the Americas.
This is part of a global paradigm, not something local to 1 of the 4 world-pushing “poles” of Earth!
It’s the principle/paradigm that needs opposing, not letting the framing be made “only-local”, because so long as we remain blindfolded against the globalness-of-the-paradigm, then we remain as ineffective as they want us to be!
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Literally every time on Lemmy someone says something bad about country X, there spawns a dude who starts writing “but US”
At this point I can’t tell if this is deliberate propaganda, the same tactic used by the soviets. In any case, I’ve noticed also that people are now growing tired of whataboutism, and your comment pisses me off too. One country being bad is not an excuse for others to do bad.
A) cultural genocide has been a thing, in lots of places, for millenia. As one of the oldest civilisations, China has plenty of examples in its history, no need to rely on Americans for inspiration.
B) countries shouldn’t get a turn or an hall pass at crimes against humanity because other countries did or are doing the same.
As a Brit, I can think of several times this happened, even in the 30’s when people were taught to use the “King’s English”
^Modern whataboutism propaganda will exhaust you by the end so you forget entirely that this thread is about China’s human rights abuses.
Lol that’s so funny. Every time there is a focus on China some chud shows up with the same western blame game
And they always have 3-4 CCP-approved tangentially-related sources to back up their clanky dissertation.
This is the case across all of China, as Mandarin is the language of the state and citizens need it to get good jobs and talk amongst each other. We need to stop pretending Tibet is being oppressed. The Dalai Lama was in the Epstein files.
Tibet is being oppressed. The Dalai Lama was in the Epstein files.
Those thing are not mutually exclusive
He’s the official leader of Tibet in the west. He represents the Tibetan political movement. If you understood Tibet as the Lama sees it, you’d understand what’s being advocated for is a theocracy that practiced slavery. “Free Tibet” is Lost Cause revisionism.
Before modern Chinese administration, monasteries and the DL held great power, owned vast swaths of land and held legal authority, similar to the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. Since China incorporated Tibet there’s been secular law and modern infrastructure built in Tibet.
The Chinese government wants all areas it governs to have industries which give people work to build a better quality of life. Part of that is having the communication skills to interact with the job market in China. Mandarin in schools is basic education for future citizens to find work. And outside of anti-government, pro-monastery propaganda, Tibetans are allowed to say, write, and read anything they want in their native language.
They even have tibetan on their banknotes iirc as well. I’ve never seen minority languages on the British bank notes. The best thing that I have seen is a Ceilidh on the £20 Ulster Bank note.
There is a difference between government and culture. The Chinese are also trying to terminate the Tibetan language and the cultural customs of common people.
Ah but the big thing you’re missing. Is Tibet doesn’t want this.
China has done everything it can to destroy the culture and make them culturally Chinese.
Tibet doesn’t want modern infrastructure like the Chinese have built? They don’t want a modern education or modern jobs? They want to be ruled by monasteries headed by the Dalai Lama, a theocracy led by a man in the Epstein files? You must be pretty racist against Tibetans to believe that.
They don’t want to be Chinese or China. The rest is irrelevant and quiet frankly insulting.
Europeans said the same about indigenous Americans. I guess you support that too?
It’s the same thing China is doing to Uyghur Muslims.
It’s called genocide
Even more insulting is comparing real genocide with having children take Mandarin classes.
Show me videos of the Chinese treating the Tibetans the way Israelis treat Palestinians. Show me Chinese soldiers shooting missiles at Tibetan schools, hospitals, and places of worship. Show me the Chinese military killing Tibetans by the thousands and bragging about it.
Why hasn’t the international criminal court put out an arrest warrant if an actual genocide is taking place? Cry me a river, you propagandistic liar!
Suck my nut it’s genocide and I don’t care how much you say it isn’t.
We aren’t arguing an opinion. It’s a fact.
“Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity, but as members of the national group”
This investment is only to extract resources to support central china and suppress the Tibetans by increasing surveillance.
