When i watched that debate between two candidates I would not have worried about biden but trump presented a real threat.

No I dont realise. Can you explain?

I think you are missing the point. I will reiterate, if you watch that and came away thinking anything other than biden was the better choice for president then you’re an idiot.

Same with Trump

Ok explain how thats worse

You thought that Biden talking about increasing taxes on the rich to continue his expansion of medicare and other healthcare schemes was intended to be ended with him saying that he beat medicare? Thats impossible. At worst you don’t know what he intended to say in that last sentence but understand his answer about increasing taxes on rich people from 7% to 25% then using that money to fund the social programs. He was talking about what he was able to do with medicare expansion and said covid by mistake got detailed and then finished with his last part of the argument which (I assume because he didnt make it) was beating big pharma

Here is the full response in text:

Timestamped clip (yes it hurts to see the goat stumble). https://youtu.be/qqG96G8YdcE?t=658

I can admin Biden isnt a rap god out there. But I dont know how people have mindfucked themselves this hard that they are trying to argue that its a sane opinion to think he lost. I don’t think Biden lost but I understand that more Americans would be convinced by Trump because a lot of Americans are really really fucking dumb. So say that you are convinced by whoever is the more confident speaker and accept that you are stupid. A debate should be judge on how the candidates answer the questions. There is not a single question where Trumps answer was coherent or good. Bidens answers were good, he used examples of policy he had already implemented to address the issues and then he talked about how he was going to continue expanding that policy to target the problem. Thats what you want in a president. Trump literally just said “Everything was good in my presidency and bad in his” and im expected to not insult people who thought he was cooking?

As for the 2nd bit https://youtu.be/qqG96G8YdcE?t=949 he doesnt pause for more than a few seconds. Please remember that this is an 80 something year old man with a stutter. Now Trump is also old and just as senile so we cant act like that was the deciding factor.

Let me remind you Trump refused to admin he lost an election, lied in almost every single one of his claims, was unable to stay on topic for a single question and used Palestinian as an insult. So when people tell me that Biden lost because he stuttered a few time I can only expect that they are actually dumber than my guinea pig who cant decide between eating hay and a carboard box.

Its a single jumbled sentence at the end of a relevant response in an hour and 20min debate. Its obvious he mixed up covid and medicare. Pick any response from trump and it was infinitely more stupid in quotes and in context. That quote from biden is a mistake and obvious to anyone with a functional brain that “beating Medicare” was not the point he was making. Trump was giving infinitely worse responses and they weren’t a slip of the tounge or mixing up words. He just unironically is that fucking stupid. So I will not sit here and pretend like these two things are equal.

If that is all it takes to convince you biden lost the debate then you are mentally cooked and I can’t phrase it any kinder without getting banned.

If you want to say biden won but you think hes to old to run thats fine but its not what I’m stating here. I’m specifically attacking people who thought biden lost the debate against trump.

She was the most popular candidate by every metric at the time and in hindsight. So I can only assume its not our current reality you’re living in.

I mean it without a doubt did. I’m not sure what reality you were living in.

He didnt look lost to me. Yeah he made facial expressions. He looked like he was shocked by what trump was saying because it was shocking stuff to say during a presidential debate. Jon Stewart made fun of it because hes a comedian doing a comedy show.

Biden shouldnt even be in the same sentence as ford. Ford was actually arguing that there was no soviet domination of eastern Europe and ended it with that quote. Even though I dont think that was that has either.

Biden was not arguing that they had beat Medicare. No one listening to bidens who response would misunderstand his point and think that was anything more than a misspeak. The only reason people would get that opinion is because thats how it was framed when it was replayed via clips.

Every single one of trumps Trumps answers is so stupid. When asked about tariffs he states that it will force china to pay the us a lot of money. That makes no sense and if it was said during a time of higher citizen IQ would be immediately disqualifying.

Its fine to say it wasnt his best preformance or it was a disappointing preformance. Its fine to want him to step down and let Harris run.

Its not fine judge a debate between presidential candidates off who appears more confident. If you find confidently stating a lie to be convincing then you’re cooked.

Also there is no argument that trump was more coherent that night. He couldn’t answer a single question on topic and none of his responses even made logical sense Compared to biden who answered every question on topic with an in depth relevant logical reply. A lot of people relive the debate via foxnews clips but thr context behind the clips isnt bad. The “we finally beat Medicare” clip should not be considered an own to anyone over 12.

This is dumb as fuck. He stuttered but didnt seem like he was going to have a stroke. He was more lucid and coherent in that debate that any trump interview in the past few years. The article makes her statement sound much worse than the clip.

Hes an old guy with a stutter trying to explain policy against a guy farming sound bites and nonsense one liners. She was probably terrified because she realised the American public was dumb enough to actually fall for trump.

I still to this day think if you watched that debate and came away thinking trump won or looked like a better presidental candidate you are mentally cooked and have zero ability to critically evaluate reality. You should seriously introspect on why you were convinced by such incoherent responses and such obvious lies. This is directed to the people on the left because its expected that maga people are that stupid.

How every democrat should respond to Republican aggression.

Get a good dog trainer, re home it or put it down. Any dog can be trained but you may not have it in you to provide the kind of discipline that an old dog like that requires. Especially with so much on your plate already.

He used to have his finger on the pulse of the populist issues. But this just shows hes so out of touch with his base.

That was a smooth arrest

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There havent been many deaths in those conflicts(comparatively). I think it only adds an extra 85k

But you can add the Africa conflicts in and Yemen and that boosts it up quite significantly.

Im trying to think of reasons and all I can think is that they dont like the bug reports from the non paying users because the systems are probably very non standard compared to paying customers who are liking running a very stable enterprise image.