• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Ken Martin said it would be public

    Billionaire owned media definitely keeps saying it…

    The only sources I’ve ever seen, is Martin saying it will be released to “DNC members”…

    I’ve noticed a lot of people took that to mean “the public” but that’s only because they don’t understand what “DNC member” is…

    There’s only like 400 voting members, and I think the non-voting members are less than that?

    If you have a source of him saying he’d release it to the public, I’d love to see it. But honestly if I can’t find it, and none.of the many, many, people repeating that claim have been able to find it…

    I gotta say, not holding my breath

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      3 hours ago

      Stop spreading your bullshit about Ken Martin. I’ve personally seen people show you links that say he would publicly release this report and yet here you are saying you’ve never seen them. At this point the only logical conclusion is that you are intentionally spreading misinformation. Maybe you’ll remember this time:

      https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938

      In brief remarks to the press after his election, Martin committed to publicly releasing a post-mortem of the 2024 campaign, which the DNC did not do after the 2016 election.

      That took me 60 seconds to find. Please say more about your thorough research into this topic.

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        The quote from the author of the article:

        In brief remarks to the press after his election, Martin committed to publicly releasing a post-mortem of the 2024 campaign, which the DNC did not do after the 2016 election. Martin did not say how quickly the committee would execute the review.

        That does claim he said publicly…

        But look at the quote to support it:

        "There has to be some lessons that we glean on that so we can operationalize it, not just here in DC, but through all of the 57 state parties,” Martin said. “We’ve got to look backwards and look forward at the same time.”

        What about that says “we’ll publicly release it”?

        Why do you think that was the closest quote a billionaire owned media corporation could find?

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          But look at the quote to support it:

          That’s not how quotes work. The former was a paraquote, what you are quoting is an actual quote separate from the paraquote.

          Your claim that “public” does not in fact mean made open to “the public” is an assumption that has no actual evidence to support it. You are making assertions on behalf of the speaker that the speaker themselves could and would make if that’s how it was originally intended.

          If your assumption was relevant than I’m sure he would have said it himself when being criticized by members of his own party and dozens of press organizations.

          When asked he hasn’t said that’s not what I meant, or I never made that claim, he just repeats that he doesn’t think it behoves us to look at past elections.

          https://www.axios.com/2026/04/12/democrats-dnc-2024-election-autopsy

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            53 minutes ago

            So…

            What you’re saying is, you also failed to find a quote of him actually saying he was going to release it to the public?

            You didn’t need to reply just to tell me I’m right, I don’t need that level of validation

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            30 minutes ago

            No…

            That was a journalist employed by a billionaire media corporation saying it…

            If he said it, don’t you think the quote of him saying it would be all over the place?

            Seriously, what’s your logic for why no one can provide an actual source of him saying it?

            Why isn’t billionaire owned media playing that clip 24/7?

            You don’t think it’s possible that billionaires are lying to you?

            Why do you blindly trust oligarchs so much? That’s a wild take on Lemmy…

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          "There has to be some lessons that we glean on that so we can operationalize it, not just here in DC, but through all of the 57 state parties,” Martin said. “We’ve got to look backwards and look forward at the same time.”

          He didn’t say he’d publicly release it…

          That account just linked more billionaire propaganda

          I legitimately don’t know how people keep falling for it, it’s like people are honestly incapable of reading…

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            44 minutes ago

            You’ve been provided a source on more than one occasion. Yelling fake news and ignoring it is what MAGA does. At least be intellectually honest about what you’re doing instead of pretending that no one has given you the information you’re asking for and could easily find yourself

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              27 minutes ago

              Nope, you just keep linking billionaire mouth pieces who insist he totally said it…

              Yet can’t provide the quote they swear exists

              Which is weird that someone has such blind faith in billionaire owned media. Why do you think they’re being honest and not just sabatoging progress like they always have?

              Do you think the billionaires are trying to help us fight the billionaires?

              I’m genuinely trying to follow your logic here, but I just can’t