They had a coup in 2020 and got rid of France. They have not been western involved or backed since. They hired Russia to secure it and it isn’t going well.
We’re talking about western backed terrorists attacking Mali not the government in Mali. Maybe english isn’t your first language?
Meanwhile, nothing in the article you linked supports your assertions.
And no what bothers me is I’m quick to call out my government being a piece of shit. The people who infest .ml are always apologetic and dismissive and downplaying about it. That’s the difference.
The difference is that you project your shitty government onto everywhere else because you lack the intellect required to actually understand other countries, and simply turn them into caricatures in whatever it is that passes for your mind?
Also all of NATO? Remind me again how many NATO troops are in Ukraine? Can you count them? Let’s see it. Sources?
It’s like you’re too stupid to understand what a proxy war is. NATO is using the people of Ukraine to fight Russia while providing weapons and material support. And the strategy is openly explained in mainstream western media https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
Yeah. Didn’t think so.
Think you mean to say: Yeah. Didn’t think.
And wait didn’t we just talk about territory getting captured?* Oh wait that’s right now we’re back to the “west is weak” stance and “all that territory isn’t as important as they make it seem”
No, we’re talking about a war of attrition where the goal is the destruction of the enemy army. Which is precisely what’s happening as Ukrainians themselves openly admit https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1161659.html
“We believe that it is important that everything in the country returns to a peaceful, stable course as soon as possible,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists during a press briefing.
Sure doesn’t read that they have it under control. Again, you don’t seem to actually process information very well. That’s not something I’m equipped to help you with.
And no I’m capable of actually seeing things the way they are and not just lapping up whatever my government gives me to eat from their lap.
Sure a proxy war just like how it is now in Iran with Russia helping them. But if USA conquered Iran (dountful) then it wouldn’t be fair to say that “all of the entire Russian federation couldn’t even stop them” because by definition a proxy war is a war using two other parties. So you saying “all of NATO is getting defeated in Ukraine” again, this is an example of illiteracy. You yourself claim to know what a proxy war is, so you should know that it doesn’t include one single NATO boot on the ground.
Which is it, a proxy war or a war that NATO is fighting? You guys go back and forth with your points a lot.
Sure doesn’t read like Mali is collapsing. What it actually reads like is that there’s a terrorist attack that’s being dealt with. Seems like you’re projecting your hopes and dreams here.
A war of attrition is about industry and logistics. We have NATO using Ukrainians to fight with western weapons going against Russia here. And the situation is that Russia is now outproducing all of NATO. That’s all of NATO getting defeated. NATO failed to accomplish their goals in the proxy war.
Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means. I’m so sorry you’re a victim of western education system.
A war instigated by a major power that does not itself participate.
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
Perhaps if you looked up some of these words you would know what you were talking about when you try to define them.
“Amazing you don’t understand what proxy means”
Shows definition
“LOL SO FUNNY YOU HAD TO LOOK IT UP TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS”
see a literate person would be following the flow of words to see that no, I did know what proxy was that’s why I said Russia is fighting a proxy war with Iran the same way Ukraine is.
You didn’t even know what it meant by your own words that are right there. Lol wtf. I’m glad you can reiterate it when you get provided a definition though, maybe there is hope for your literacy ability yet!
You’re the one who didn’t understand what it meant. The words are right there.
Its proxy war because the USA is the aggressors and Russia is providing weapons and intelligence to Iran to fight them. The same way USA is doing that for Ukraine. USA doesn’t control Ukraine government either they pretty famously don’t get along especially with the current administration.
Seriously man I get it. Understanding stuff can be difficult for some people.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
What part of the definition I provided is wrong. Be specific. Is a proxy not a nation being used by another more powerful nation, which it is a client of, to fight their adversaries?
Perhaps if you actually tried engaging for whatever it is that passes for a brain in that head of yours, you wouldn’t be writing such idiotic comments here.
Providing weapons and intelligence to a country doesn’t make it a proxy lmfao. The fact that you keep doubling down on this really is phenomenal. Just how dumb are you exactly?
What part of the definition is wrong? Damn I provided the dictionary excerpt for you only to go back to that not understanding stuff again.
You said
“Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means.”
See now a normal person with normal reading comprehension would read this as" this person thinks the other party has to have control of one of the governments fighting in the war for it to be a proxy war" and see I provided this definition to show you no, that is not the case. That’s not what proxy means. My “western education” you claim I’m a victim to actually taught me that in a fifth grade civics class.
You see proxy war doesn’t mean that one of the parties using the other party to fight on their behalf means that they own or control them. It means that they see an opportunity to help an enemy of their enemy defeat that enemy.
You could read the definition a couple more times I posted it for your benefit so that you can learn something.
“Amazing you don’t know what proxy means”
Lol I love doing this because if you can actually get through without getting blocked you can see firsthand the lack of understanding about very basic words and concepts but oh boy it won’t stop the ml crowd from trying anyway then when you pull up definitions to prove them wrong they act like you pulled it up because YOU didn’t know when you literally told them what it meant right before that.
Honestly dude it has to take work to make yourself stay so ignorant of facts.
Yes, a proxy literally does mean that one party is using another. That’s what makes them the proxy. I guess you’ve run into your cognitive limits here. I do appreciate that you love being the court jester. It’s good to embrace your strengths.
We’re talking about western backed terrorists attacking Mali not the government in Mali. Maybe english isn’t your first language?
Meanwhile, nothing in the article you linked supports your assertions.
The difference is that you project your shitty government onto everywhere else because you lack the intellect required to actually understand other countries, and simply turn them into caricatures in whatever it is that passes for your mind?
It’s like you’re too stupid to understand what a proxy war is. NATO is using the people of Ukraine to fight Russia while providing weapons and material support. And the strategy is openly explained in mainstream western media https://nationalinterest.org/feature/strategy-avoiding-two-front-war-192137
Think you mean to say: Yeah. Didn’t think.
No, we’re talking about a war of attrition where the goal is the destruction of the enemy army. Which is precisely what’s happening as Ukrainians themselves openly admit https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1161659.html
But hey tell me more about critical thinking. 🤣
I’m dying lmao
these trolls just make it so easy 🤣
“We believe that it is important that everything in the country returns to a peaceful, stable course as soon as possible,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists during a press briefing.
Sure doesn’t read that they have it under control. Again, you don’t seem to actually process information very well. That’s not something I’m equipped to help you with.
And no I’m capable of actually seeing things the way they are and not just lapping up whatever my government gives me to eat from their lap.
Sure a proxy war just like how it is now in Iran with Russia helping them. But if USA conquered Iran (dountful) then it wouldn’t be fair to say that “all of the entire Russian federation couldn’t even stop them” because by definition a proxy war is a war using two other parties. So you saying “all of NATO is getting defeated in Ukraine” again, this is an example of illiteracy. You yourself claim to know what a proxy war is, so you should know that it doesn’t include one single NATO boot on the ground.
Which is it, a proxy war or a war that NATO is fighting? You guys go back and forth with your points a lot.
Sure doesn’t read like Mali is collapsing. What it actually reads like is that there’s a terrorist attack that’s being dealt with. Seems like you’re projecting your hopes and dreams here.
A war of attrition is about industry and logistics. We have NATO using Ukrainians to fight with western weapons going against Russia here. And the situation is that Russia is now outproducing all of NATO. That’s all of NATO getting defeated. NATO failed to accomplish their goals in the proxy war.
Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means. I’m so sorry you’re a victim of western education system.
proxy war
noun
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
Perhaps if you looked up some of these words you would know what you were talking about when you try to define them. “Amazing you don’t understand what proxy means” Shows definition “LOL SO FUNNY YOU HAD TO LOOK IT UP TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS” see a literate person would be following the flow of words to see that no, I did know what proxy was that’s why I said Russia is fighting a proxy war with Iran the same way Ukraine is.
You didn’t even know what it meant by your own words that are right there. Lol wtf. I’m glad you can reiterate it when you get provided a definition though, maybe there is hope for your literacy ability yet!
You’re the one who didn’t understand what it meant. The words are right there.
Its proxy war because the USA is the aggressors and Russia is providing weapons and intelligence to Iran to fight them. The same way USA is doing that for Ukraine. USA doesn’t control Ukraine government either they pretty famously don’t get along especially with the current administration.
Seriously man I get it. Understanding stuff can be difficult for some people.
What part of the definition I provided is wrong. Be specific. Is a proxy not a nation being used by another more powerful nation, which it is a client of, to fight their adversaries?
Perhaps if you actually tried engaging for whatever it is that passes for a brain in that head of yours, you wouldn’t be writing such idiotic comments here.
Providing weapons and intelligence to a country doesn’t make it a proxy lmfao. The fact that you keep doubling down on this really is phenomenal. Just how dumb are you exactly?
What part of the definition is wrong? Damn I provided the dictionary excerpt for you only to go back to that not understanding stuff again.
You said
“Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means.”
See now a normal person with normal reading comprehension would read this as" this person thinks the other party has to have control of one of the governments fighting in the war for it to be a proxy war" and see I provided this definition to show you no, that is not the case. That’s not what proxy means. My “western education” you claim I’m a victim to actually taught me that in a fifth grade civics class.
You see proxy war doesn’t mean that one of the parties using the other party to fight on their behalf means that they own or control them. It means that they see an opportunity to help an enemy of their enemy defeat that enemy.
You could read the definition a couple more times I posted it for your benefit so that you can learn something.
“Amazing you don’t know what proxy means”
Lol I love doing this because if you can actually get through without getting blocked you can see firsthand the lack of understanding about very basic words and concepts but oh boy it won’t stop the ml crowd from trying anyway then when you pull up definitions to prove them wrong they act like you pulled it up because YOU didn’t know when you literally told them what it meant right before that.
Honestly dude it has to take work to make yourself stay so ignorant of facts.
Yes, a proxy literally does mean that one party is using another. That’s what makes them the proxy. I guess you’ve run into your cognitive limits here. I do appreciate that you love being the court jester. It’s good to embrace your strengths.