A war instigated by a major power that does not itself participate.
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
Perhaps if you looked up some of these words you would know what you were talking about when you try to define them.
“Amazing you don’t understand what proxy means”
Shows definition
“LOL SO FUNNY YOU HAD TO LOOK IT UP TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS”
see a literate person would be following the flow of words to see that no, I did know what proxy was that’s why I said Russia is fighting a proxy war with Iran the same way Ukraine is.
You didn’t even know what it meant by your own words that are right there. Lol wtf. I’m glad you can reiterate it when you get provided a definition though, maybe there is hope for your literacy ability yet!
You’re the one who didn’t understand what it meant. The words are right there.
Its proxy war because the USA is the aggressors and Russia is providing weapons and intelligence to Iran to fight them. The same way USA is doing that for Ukraine. USA doesn’t control Ukraine government either they pretty famously don’t get along especially with the current administration.
Seriously man I get it. Understanding stuff can be difficult for some people.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
What part of the definition I provided is wrong. Be specific. Is a proxy not a nation being used by another more powerful nation, which it is a client of, to fight their adversaries?
Perhaps if you actually tried engaging for whatever it is that passes for a brain in that head of yours, you wouldn’t be writing such idiotic comments here.
Providing weapons and intelligence to a country doesn’t make it a proxy lmfao. The fact that you keep doubling down on this really is phenomenal. Just how dumb are you exactly?
What part of the definition is wrong? Damn I provided the dictionary excerpt for you only to go back to that not understanding stuff again.
You said
“Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means.”
See now a normal person with normal reading comprehension would read this as" this person thinks the other party has to have control of one of the governments fighting in the war for it to be a proxy war" and see I provided this definition to show you no, that is not the case. That’s not what proxy means. My “western education” you claim I’m a victim to actually taught me that in a fifth grade civics class.
You see proxy war doesn’t mean that one of the parties using the other party to fight on their behalf means that they own or control them. It means that they see an opportunity to help an enemy of their enemy defeat that enemy.
You could read the definition a couple more times I posted it for your benefit so that you can learn something.
“Amazing you don’t know what proxy means”
Lol I love doing this because if you can actually get through without getting blocked you can see firsthand the lack of understanding about very basic words and concepts but oh boy it won’t stop the ml crowd from trying anyway then when you pull up definitions to prove them wrong they act like you pulled it up because YOU didn’t know when you literally told them what it meant right before that.
Honestly dude it has to take work to make yourself stay so ignorant of facts.
Yes, a proxy literally does mean that one party is using another. That’s what makes them the proxy. I guess you’ve run into your cognitive limits here. I do appreciate that you love being the court jester. It’s good to embrace your strengths.
Oh honey. You are so close to getting it. Let me help you.
Russia and Iran are NOT fighting the same war. They are two separate countries with separate agendas who happen to hate some of the same people. That is called an alliance. Not a proxy relationship.
Russia is fighting Ukraine. Iran is not fighting Ukraine. Iran sends Russia some drones because Iran wants to annoy the West. That is arms sales with extra steps. Russia does not control Iran’s decision to do that. Iran could stop tomorrow and Russia could do absolutely nothing about it.
Now flip it around. Who is Iran fighting? They are fighting Israel through Hezbollah and the Houthis. Is Russia in that fight? No. Russia is sitting on the sidelines sipping tea. Russia is not telling Hezbollah when to launch rockets. Russia is not funding the Houthis. Iran is doing all of that on its own.
So ask yourself. If Russia is not controlling Iran and Russia is not fighting Iran’s war then how is Russia the master and Iran the proxy? The answer is it is not. You are trying to apply a definition to a relationship that does not fit and then calling everyone else dumb for pointing it out.
You want to call Iran a Russian proxy so badly that you forgot what a proxy actually is. A proxy does the work for the master. Iran does its own work for its own reasons. That is not a proxy. That is just a country with a pulse.
Oh bit see by Yandex own definition you are still flat ass wrong and don’t grasp what you are talking out of your ass about!
A proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power. In the term “proxy war,” a belligerent with external support is the proxy. Both belligerents in a proxy war can be considered proxies if both are receiving foreign military aid from a third-party country. 12
Go ahead and tell me Yandex is full of lies and western propaganda or something. It would just be another cherry on top for the mental gymnastics.
If USA is fighting a proxy war by supplying Ukraine with weapons, then yes Russia is fighting a proxy war by supplying Iran with weapons. (Hope Iran wins btw in case you confuse my stating facts with my personal beliefs again.)
Because even by those opinions of other generals on what makes a proxy war a proxy war then helping someone who is fighting against your enemy while that enemy is fighting a proxy war against you makes you a party involved in a proxy war. Its simple.
A war instigated by a major power that does not itself participate.
Every single dictionary in every single language gives the same definition by the way bud.
So supplying weapons to a third party is enough to constitute a proxy war. Been the same word and meaning for a long time.
So if USA is fighting proxy with Ukraine how then is Russia not fighting a proxy with Iran?
USA doesn’t control Ukraine either. In fact Russia pinky swore not to ever invade it and did anyway so we give them weapons. Sounds like Russia should have stayed the fuck out of a country that never wanted them there.
Same thing with USA/Israel in Iran. Absolutely bullshit we should have never been there and killing little girls is beyond fucked up. So I don’t blame Russia helping Iran, I support it.
But see you seem to think one is ok and the other isn’t. That one is a proxy war and the other isn’t.
proxy war
noun
Where does that say they have to have control of the government? You were SO QUICK to act like you were some authority on the subject and knew what it meant. I’m disappointed.
I know I know, it sucks to not be literate bro. You can get help though.
Also no a defense spokesperson pleading for peace to return to a region isn’t a sign that “they have the situation full under control” like you said. I know I know, comprehension sucks.
For future though you might want to actually know what these words mean before you fight ideologically about them. But I mean that’s just the way normal thinking people do it. You do you.
I would hate to be so blinded by my ignorance that I don’t even know what the words mean I fight others about. And then go so far as to try and make up a definition for it on top! Embarrassing.
I love how you had to run to look up what proxy war means in the dictionary. The key aspect of a proxy war is that it’s a country being used by another as a proxy to fight their adversary. Please do explain how this is the case with Iran and Russia. I’ll wait.
It’s truly amazing how you reach new levels of imbecility with each and every comment. I just can’t wait what brain droppings you’re going to leave here next.
Yes I pulled it up so that you could see for yourself that your definition you provided was wrong. “Impossible to be a proxy war because Russia doesn’t control the Iran government”
Perhaps if you looked up some of these words you would know what you were talking about when you try to define them. “Amazing you don’t understand what proxy means” Shows definition “LOL SO FUNNY YOU HAD TO LOOK IT UP TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS” see a literate person would be following the flow of words to see that no, I did know what proxy was that’s why I said Russia is fighting a proxy war with Iran the same way Ukraine is.
You didn’t even know what it meant by your own words that are right there. Lol wtf. I’m glad you can reiterate it when you get provided a definition though, maybe there is hope for your literacy ability yet!
You’re the one who didn’t understand what it meant. The words are right there.
Its proxy war because the USA is the aggressors and Russia is providing weapons and intelligence to Iran to fight them. The same way USA is doing that for Ukraine. USA doesn’t control Ukraine government either they pretty famously don’t get along especially with the current administration.
Seriously man I get it. Understanding stuff can be difficult for some people.
What part of the definition I provided is wrong. Be specific. Is a proxy not a nation being used by another more powerful nation, which it is a client of, to fight their adversaries?
Perhaps if you actually tried engaging for whatever it is that passes for a brain in that head of yours, you wouldn’t be writing such idiotic comments here.
Providing weapons and intelligence to a country doesn’t make it a proxy lmfao. The fact that you keep doubling down on this really is phenomenal. Just how dumb are you exactly?
What part of the definition is wrong? Damn I provided the dictionary excerpt for you only to go back to that not understanding stuff again.
You said
“Meanwhile, Iran isn’t a proxy war because Iran is not a Russian proxy. Russia does not control the government in Iran or make decisions for Iranians. Amazing that you don’t even understand what the word proxy means.”
See now a normal person with normal reading comprehension would read this as" this person thinks the other party has to have control of one of the governments fighting in the war for it to be a proxy war" and see I provided this definition to show you no, that is not the case. That’s not what proxy means. My “western education” you claim I’m a victim to actually taught me that in a fifth grade civics class.
You see proxy war doesn’t mean that one of the parties using the other party to fight on their behalf means that they own or control them. It means that they see an opportunity to help an enemy of their enemy defeat that enemy.
You could read the definition a couple more times I posted it for your benefit so that you can learn something.
“Amazing you don’t know what proxy means”
Lol I love doing this because if you can actually get through without getting blocked you can see firsthand the lack of understanding about very basic words and concepts but oh boy it won’t stop the ml crowd from trying anyway then when you pull up definitions to prove them wrong they act like you pulled it up because YOU didn’t know when you literally told them what it meant right before that.
Honestly dude it has to take work to make yourself stay so ignorant of facts.
Yes, a proxy literally does mean that one party is using another. That’s what makes them the proxy. I guess you’ve run into your cognitive limits here. I do appreciate that you love being the court jester. It’s good to embrace your strengths.
So then explain to me how Russia wouldn’t be a proxy war since “they don’t own or control the Iran government”
For someone who knows what proxy means why did you suggest that if a country doesn’t have control of that government that it isn’t a proxy war?
Would it be a lack of understanding on what proxy is? Or is it just more “well when we do it its ok and different”
“Amazing that you don’t even know what proxy means”
Oh honey. You are so close to getting it. Let me help you.
Russia and Iran are NOT fighting the same war. They are two separate countries with separate agendas who happen to hate some of the same people. That is called an alliance. Not a proxy relationship.
Russia is fighting Ukraine. Iran is not fighting Ukraine. Iran sends Russia some drones because Iran wants to annoy the West. That is arms sales with extra steps. Russia does not control Iran’s decision to do that. Iran could stop tomorrow and Russia could do absolutely nothing about it.
Now flip it around. Who is Iran fighting? They are fighting Israel through Hezbollah and the Houthis. Is Russia in that fight? No. Russia is sitting on the sidelines sipping tea. Russia is not telling Hezbollah when to launch rockets. Russia is not funding the Houthis. Iran is doing all of that on its own.
So ask yourself. If Russia is not controlling Iran and Russia is not fighting Iran’s war then how is Russia the master and Iran the proxy? The answer is it is not. You are trying to apply a definition to a relationship that does not fit and then calling everyone else dumb for pointing it out.
You want to call Iran a Russian proxy so badly that you forgot what a proxy actually is. A proxy does the work for the master. Iran does its own work for its own reasons. That is not a proxy. That is just a country with a pulse.
Oh bit see by Yandex own definition you are still flat ass wrong and don’t grasp what you are talking out of your ass about!
A proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power. In the term “proxy war,” a belligerent with external support is the proxy. Both belligerents in a proxy war can be considered proxies if both are receiving foreign military aid from a third-party country. 12
Go ahead and tell me Yandex is full of lies and western propaganda or something. It would just be another cherry on top for the mental gymnastics.
“Amazing you don’t even know what proxy means”
If USA is fighting a proxy war by supplying Ukraine with weapons, then yes Russia is fighting a proxy war by supplying Iran with weapons. (Hope Iran wins btw in case you confuse my stating facts with my personal beliefs again.)
Because even by those opinions of other generals on what makes a proxy war a proxy war then helping someone who is fighting against your enemy while that enemy is fighting a proxy war against you makes you a party involved in a proxy war. Its simple.
Russia doesn’t have to Give commands
Because,
proxy war
noun
Every single dictionary in every single language gives the same definition by the way bud.
So supplying weapons to a third party is enough to constitute a proxy war. Been the same word and meaning for a long time.
So if USA is fighting proxy with Ukraine how then is Russia not fighting a proxy with Iran?
USA doesn’t control Ukraine either. In fact Russia pinky swore not to ever invade it and did anyway so we give them weapons. Sounds like Russia should have stayed the fuck out of a country that never wanted them there.
Same thing with USA/Israel in Iran. Absolutely bullshit we should have never been there and killing little girls is beyond fucked up. So I don’t blame Russia helping Iran, I support it.
But see you seem to think one is ok and the other isn’t. That one is a proxy war and the other isn’t.
“Amazing you don’t even know what proxy means”