U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    Yeah I see the problem. The people need to take the first step and support them for more than a couple of election cycles. And I don’t mean just voting. Vote, contact them, go to their events, call them, send mail, emails. Make sure your voice is heard.

    I find it ridiculous that people sit at home and yell at their tv “they aren’t doing what I want!” and think they are politically active. Goddamn morons.

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      That is not how representational democracy works. The politicians represents what you want and then you vote for them. It doesn’t work the other way around where you vote for a politician and then maybe they’ll do what you want them to do. Is it their job to know what you want BECAUSE IT IS THEIR JOB TO FUCKING REPRESENT YOU.

      It shouldn’t come as a surprise that sympathy towards Israel is waning, there are multiple polls from multiples sources showing that. So why hasn’t the democratic party taken a more anti-Israel stance? Is it because they’re too fucking incompetent at their job to know what the people want (in which case why the fuck would you vote for them in the first place) or is it because they don’t care what the people want because they get money from AIPAC?

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        Have you thought about telling your politicians what their job is? One effective way to let them know is to vote the ones, who have forgotten, out and vote the ones, who know what their job is, in.

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          One effective way to let them know is to vote the ones, who have forgotten, out and vote the ones, who know what their job is, in.

          And when your options are between voting for the ones who have forgotten and the ones who also have forgotten, what vote do you cast? It’s almost like it doesn’t matter which way you vote, so why vote at all? Maybe if the politicians cared about votes they’d figure out why they’re not getting votes.

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              And you get the current American political landscape where democrats have no incentive to do what you want because what are you going to do? Vote for the fascist?

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                  And how did voting against fascists work out in 2020? Did you feel like your life improved between 2020 and 2024 or did you feel like you’re still getting the same shit every day except ever so slightly worse?

                  You’re not voting against fascists. You’re just voting for the people paving the way for fascists. Because your material conditions are going to keep getting worse and worse until you’re so desperate that you turn to fascism in hopes of getting a better life (which just to be clear is always going to be a lie) or you’re going to drown in apathy and not vote and then the desperate voters vote fascism in.

                  You’re not seeing the big picture here. It doesn’t matter which way you vote, both votes end up going for fascism. The only difference is whether the fascism happens now or later. And you could argue that later is still better because at least it’s not now, but if there’s no escape (which in the current political landscape there isn’t as long as the democrats stay the way they are) that later might as well not exist because fascism would be inevitable. You’re just kicking the can down the road and prolonging the suffering of everyone.

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                    And how did voting against fascists work out in 2020?

                    Worked quite well, since the fascist was kept out. That was objectively and factually better option that letting the fascist in. Just because it wasn’t perfect doesn’t mean it wasn’t better.

                    You know what happens when people dont vote against a fascist? Israel starts razing Gaza to the ground and attacking Lebanon, girl schools in Iran get bombed and a major global supply chain gets shut down for no particularly good reason or without plans, a guy who fucks kids gets into the white house, global economies suffer, decades long alliances crumble, countries start to run away from America, leading to a economic downturn for the USA. Thats what happens when you stay home and don’t vote.

                    You can live in your magical la-la land where there is a perfect candidate you can vote for without any doubts or conflicting feelings, but here in reality you’ve got to vote based on what the choices are.