U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    So took you took action that helped the GOP, instead of biting the sour apple and trying to prevent the GOP from winning, you helped fracture the opposition to them, for what?

    The weird satisfaction of avoiding a hypothetical scenario that would have been less bad than the current one.

    Give yourself a nickel, you played yourself well.

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      No I participated in Democracy and voted for who I felt best represented me. I voted for the Palestinian choice and stood in solidarity with Palestinians. You know the people you still mock and claim deserve what they got and deserve to die, and that you claim are stupid. The only people playing here are Democrats. They absolutely give zero shits about Palestinians or Muslims. They only care about Zionists. Heck, you can’t even get Democratic leadership to vote still on ending the funding for this illegal war, and many of them have come out in support of Trump’s actions.

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        With the current political system in the US when you have a system based on FPTP, a ridiculously undemocratic system, you can’t use normal democratic rules.

        You need to play the game within the rules.

        The green party has zero chance to get into congress or gain any influence, they will only steal votes from the Democrats, and that will only serve the GOP.

        Until the US rids it self from FPTP, any vote for any other party other than the Dems will gain the GOP.

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          Democrats deserve to lose then. I mean I honestly don’t see any difference at this point between Zionist and Democrats. They both do evil things and then claim they are the victims. If only people like you would actually have a moral compass then you’d spend your time criticizing anyone who didn’t vote for a green party candidate.

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            I get your feeling of hopelessness, the best you can do right now is to work to promote proportional representation over FPTP, and while doing that keep voting to keep the GOP out of power, meaning voting democrat.

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              So you want me to vote against the Palestinian’s preferred choice of Green Party for AIPAC-owned pro-genocide Democrats in order to save the Palestinians, because you believe Palestinians are too stupid to know what is good for them? Was it good for you when ICE, trained by the IDF, killed a few Americans? That is who your politicians vote to support. Your choices have consequences.

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                I want you to limit the harm caused by the US.

                You are laser focused on Palestine, but look beyond that, would Kamela have kidnapped, Venezuela’s president, would she have blockaded Cuba, would she have attacked Iran, alienated NATO and other allies, stopped helping Ukraine?

                There is more going on here than Palestine.

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                  She certainly talked about attacking Iran and was praising the biggest war criminal of the last two decades, Dick Cheney. I don’t think she would have been as bad globally, but that’s not how it works. If you can’t say no to genocide then you don’t get to claim to be the victim.

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                I’m not sure who you are letting influence you about what Palestines want. But they would certainly prefer democrat’s ME policy over Trump’s. It’s that simple.

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                  A majority of Palestinians voted for Green Party in 2024. If you voted in solidarity with them, you would not have voted for a Democrat.

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            If you admit this was about who “deserves” a political consequence, you have just admitted you never gave a fuck about Gaza to begin with. It was about weird punishment for you. Thanks for admitting that.

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        No, you voluntarily chose to pretend like you were participating, and instead actively helped get Trump into office.