Democrats spent the last year asking where their Joe Rogan was. Hasan Piker is one of the few left-wing figures with the audience they covet — but the party is deeply hostile to the spontaneity and independence that make figures like him appealing.

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      First, thank you for posting sources to support your claim. I looked at most of them.

      Democrats are on the hunt for their own Joe Rogan from May 2025

      The tagline on the article says: “Party leaders and mega-donors want to counter MAGA’s online momentum by recreating a digital right-wing ecosystem for the left”

      Okay so Party Leaders and megadonors want this right? But the article continues…

      “As Democrats plot a return from the electoral wilderness, a growing chorus of party figures has begun to push for a liberal-leaning alternative to the right’s digital dominance.”

      So gone are the megadonors now, and we’re down to “party figures”. What happened to the megadonors? The article actually tells us…

      “That belief has led to party mega-donors being ‘inundated with overtures’ to open their wallets for the development of an ‘army of left-leaning online influencers.’”

      Okay, so the megadonors aren’t asking a Demo-Rogan, someone is asking megadonors to pay for a Demo-Rogan. But so far we still have no names of any of the cited “party leaders”. However we do have a named Democrat figure that is against a Demo-Rogan:

      “The notion that victory is possible if they ‘spend enough billionaire money’ to create a Rogan equivalent ‘speaking in Democratic talking points’ is ‘laughable,’ said Emily Jashinsky at UnHerd.”

      This supports my statement.

      If you do run across the unnamed party leaders, I’d be interested in knowing who they are.

      Democrats seeking to buy the ‘next Joe Rogan’ of the left after 2024 election defeat also May 2025

      Sorry, I don’t consider Fox News as a news source. I skipped this one.

      Could This 20-Year-Old Be One of the Democrats’ Bro Whisperers? from December 2024

      I don’t have a NYT subscription so I couldn’t read the whole article, but the part I could read was talking about a young man with a politics driving youtube channel. I don’t consider that a Democratic Joe Rogan.

      Can Democrats win back podcasting? We asked 6 popular show hosts to weigh in from November 2024

      The article author openly says he’s not asking for a Demo-Rogan.

      “Also, the idea of a ‘liberal Joe Rogan’ has been floated a lot since the election and I don’t want to just parrot that since it’s not really what I mean”.

      Note: The “the idea of a liberal Joe Rogan” is a hyperlink to yet another article. I read that one too. There’s no claim of a Demo-Rogan there either. The closest the author gets to is this:

      "If liberals ever hope to compete with such a successful messaging apparatus, they’re going to have to do more than create clones of Crooked Media. They will have to elevate, or build from the ground up, captivating public figures who connect with vast audiences including, but not limited to, disaffected young men—and entertain the hell out of them. "

      Lowry: The Left can’t create a new Joe Rogan

      That last article actually supports my position, not yours. It says this:

      “Progressives are correct about the power of Rogan and his cohort of bro podcasters, but they don’t understand how thoroughly anathema their ideology and cultural sensibility are to this kind of programming. If Left did manage to create a progressive Joe Rogan in a lab, as soon as he said something controversial out in the wild, he’d be subject to cancelation.”

      It’s definitely been a topic for a couple of years now.

      At least from the articles you posted that is more of a incorrect statement than correct. Yes, I see how you came to that conclusion and in some very narrow readings there are pieces of truth but, I think your premise is disingenuous to claim to be generally true. Keep in mind, I’m not attacking you as a person. I’m not calling you a bad person. I just disagree with your conclusions.

      The idea of Demo-Rogan messaging is a repeat of the 1990s where Al Frankin and others created [“Air America”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(radio_network) to counter the Republican mouthpiece of the day Rush Limbaugh. Air America failed there too for the same reason a Demo-Rogan would today. Democrats don’t tune into radio for half truths and empty open ridicule of the GOP even though the GOP richly deserves ridicule, especially with trump in office.

      I stand by my original statement.

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        I was simply responding to you claiming you’ve never seen this topic of the Democrats wanting their own Joe Rohan before today.

        It has been a topic bantered about for a while now.

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          Huh. So you weren’t answering my posted question, but picking out the first sentence in my post. Thank you for clarifying your statement.

          Okay, we have nothing further to talk about then.