By “people”, I just mean my friends and a bunch of other jailbreakers on YouTube, but whatever. I have a few friends. One is a trans girl, which I mention because apparently it’s common for trans women to love tech, and the other two are genderfluid AFAB. Well, anyway, I prefer new electronics that you can do a lot more stuff with and I don’t understand the hype on using and blogging on a 10 to 18-year-old electronic device?
Older tech did stuff for us. Newer tech does stuff to us. If you think everything newer is better, I can understand that, but it probably means you are young and don’t know what tech used to be like. One small way people try to recapture those times is by opting out of all the latest apps and fuckery and using something simpler and retro. For example, the guy who writes the Game of Thrones books does it all on a DOS command line PC. It works for him and has no distractions. No one is going to hack it because it doesn’t have a network cable.
I have no idea why you want to make this about gender identity. Those parts of your question seem to challenge the name of the sub.
If it does the job, why waste money on new one?
I picked up an old amplifier from my parents, they bought it for their day’s equivalent of 4-500 bucks to use with their LP player, which has since died.
It’s a Scott from the 70s, made in the US, and it somehow now appreciated over inflation if you look at the sale prices on ebay and the like (~700€).
When setting it up i opened it to see if it needed cleaning out, and the insides were pristine, and clearly hand soldered.
The sound is clean as a whistle, it’s compatible with RC cables, and has a standard European plug. Not only does it not need upgrading, it stands head and shoulders over what you can get today for the same price they bought it for.
Sometimes, products made before planned obsolescence were just better.
Why ask strangers on the internet with no context why your friends like something? Wouldn’t your friends be both far more able to explain, because it’s their thing and we don’t know them, and far more interested in explaining, because it’s their thing and people love talking about their passions?
By using an older piece of tech that does one thing, you make doing that thing an activity again. As in, it’s a conscious involvement to do that thing now, it’s not just an app or a side feature of some other device.
For instance, I got an iPod Nano a little while ago and just loaded it with the few hundred songs I care to listen to. I use a fraction of the space of the thing if I care to add more music, but now when I want to listen to music I have to use a specific device to do so. It makes it more of a conscious decision to listen to music and, to me, makes me enjoy it more.
90% of what people do on computers can be done comfortably on 10 year old computers, performance wise. If a device hasn’t fallen apart by now, you can assume that it’s built to last, which isn’t guaranteed with new computers, especially those that you can get at the same price.
Older tech can generally be more privacy respecting, a old VCR for example won’t collect analytics on you.
Who needs a smart TV, when you can just use a 15 year old flat TV and plug it into a computer. Install Firefox and uBlock Origin to watch YouTube. It’s a real computer, which means you can watch pretty much anything with it.
If you’re into hardware tinkering, get a mini ATX (or ITX) board and a small flat case for it. Should look pretty much like a VCR box from the 90s.
If you want to make it quiet, you could use a passively cooled GPU with a HDMI output. Alternatively, get a AMD APU, and use the largest fan you can to cool it. Tweak the settings to run it as slow as possible. If that’s not an option, stick a few of those Noctua’s resistor cables between the board and the fan to force it to run slower.
You sure about that? 👀
Without any kind of internet connection, it’s a pretty safe bet.
It’s fun to take what is considered essentially antiquated “trash” and make something of it, and it’s a relatively cheap way to do computer tinkering, as old tech turns up in pawn shops or scrap yards
Particularly when it’s an old Intel Mac that Apple obsoleted years ago, but which still runs Linux perfectly. Also, they’re reasonably powerful and cost bugger all because the M-series Macs have blown them all out of the water.
That makes sense!!! I get it :)
Smartphones and tablets manufactured circa 2015 were powerful enough to run many apps and software, and not yet locked down as much as they are now. So there were a lot of custom ROMs and kernels being made for Android and jailbreaking tools for iDevices, allowing you to customize much much more than the manufacturer intended.
And it’s just fun to make something that most people consider “obsolete” perform well, or well enough to be usable.
Not sure what role gender plays into that though.
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Cheap. Why spend the high prices of the latest stuff when you can salvage old things for little to nothing. People will give you tons of outdated things if you ask nicely.
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Less wasteful. If you can keep old stuff going, you keep it out of a landfill. It also means less new production is needed. In other words…
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Says fuck you to corporations. Right to repair is a thorn in the side of many greedy business models that push cheaply made products made to be tossed and replaced over and over without a lot of improvement between iterations.
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It’s something to tinker with. Some people just want plug and play, but others want to rig up some crazy setups and keep them going just to challenge themselves and get bragging rights
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Vibes. Some people are into old school film cameras, or arcade cabinets, or classic cars, or retro fashion. Playing with relatively ancient technology is just another way of keeping the good parts of the past alive.
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Please allow me to broaden the context. I used to be an avid motorcyclist. I had a 2000 BMW R1100, which I could service with a modest set of tools. A more modern BMW appears to be very hostile to home mechanics. Even the screws have a corporate head nowadays. Servicing a BMW has become very expensive, as it requires some extremely specialized mechanics (or so they say). My next motorcycle, if I ever buy one, will NOT be a BMW.
It fits in a trend: consumers are being kept from servicing, upgrading or otherwise extending the lifespan of their devices. Repair a smartphone? Good luck. Swap an SSD in your laptop. Tough, buddy. Want to set up your dishwasher. Sure, download the app, give your GPS coordinates and the birth date of your firstborn and you can set it up.
Swap an SSD in your laptop
Is that an apple thing? I’vd neve r run into such an issue, provided the hdd meets the required form factor. My 2023 laptop even came with an unused 2nd nvme slot.
BMW
The apple of the automotive world. I’m kinda shocked HD hasn’t tried to follow suit. I was sure the “guy who never rode a motorcycle before but became CEO” was gonna see every custom modification as a lost sale and try DRM.
Reduce + Reuse + the feeling of being a part of a special club, its kind of lit.
We need way more of this.
You’re very right. I just sell/recycle my old devices or give them to a friend.
To be fair tho, I am reusing an old computer for a Lemmy instance. Right now it’s still updating stuff and I’m at the very beginning of the process but it should work soon!
Props, I don’t mean to imply we all need to shoehorn old technology in everywhere, but there are definitely spaces for it, and I also believe knowing how to use these tools are a great skillset to have.
Yeah!!! I definitely agree!!
I can’t think of a new thing since covid that seems any better than the stuff before. Im really not sure if your talking less than a decade old or 30 year old tech honestly.
Anywhere from Apple’s 2008-2016 era
yeah thats pretty old. honestly though i can get by with 16gig of ram and 720pm and ssd with any processor that would be on something that had that. Its only recently that I kinda want 32gig and maybe a bit more resolution.
I find a lot more “soul” in older electronics. So many devices today are a minimalist thing with a touchscreen (or worse, thing controlled by your phone), probably designed to force you into a subscription. At least consumerism from a few decades ago operated by innovating to make you want to buy a new product, rather than designing it to be a trap.
Going back to the “soul” bit: I recently bought a Bang and Olufsen Beosystem 2500 (look it up) for my office. It’s a stereo from the very early 90s that cost thousands of dollars in its day. It sounds amazing, and has little touches that just make it cool. Like motorized glass doors that are motion activated, with warm accent lighting when the unit is on. The tape player didn’t work when I bought it, but I was able to replace the belt and now my childhood Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego soundtrack tape is playable again! And with an Aux input, I can also use it for modern stuff too to take advantage of what we’ve gained in media playback since ~1991.
Find me a new phone with dual front facing speakers and I’ll give up my pixel 3.








