this is entire statement is ridiculous. anyone who puts a completely closed system above anything isbretarded. and since you are retarded i have to explain that open system does not mean open source.
you probably thing development is made up of front end and back end like op. when in fact front and back tohlgther is web dev and web dev is a very small portion of development.
As someone who does cross-platform development: everything on Mac takes twice as long, and breaks with every OS update. And that’s without even the switch from PPC to Intel 32 bit to Intel 64 bit to ARM.
I’m exaggerating a bit, and I’m sure in many environments Mac is easy enough. But for us - there’s a reason we have more Mac developers than Windows and Linux combined, and it’s not because people want a Mac.
What makes it shit for development? I’ve been using windows as a developer for almost 10 years.
I have switched to Linux at home, but I don’t develop on that PC.
So I’d honestly like to hear whats so bad about it, and why is your preferred OS better?
over the past 10 years microslop has become increasingly hostile towards developers and encouraging vendor lock-in.
just over the last 5 years alone, microslop has stolen finite resources and refused to relinquish them under the guise of a better “user experience”. these resources are important to the stability and development of systems locally. unfortunately microslop’s solution is “use Azure remote services”.
everything microslop does is to drive users to their cloud services.
I’ll put it down to numbers for you if it’s not clear.
I can spend $1000 on a laptop, install Linux, and run 20± containers AND have a usable desktop environment for the next 10+ years.
or
I can spend $1500 on a laptop, install microslop and run 5+ containers AND have a slightly sluggish desktop environment for the next 6 months to a year, PLUS have my entire device bricked by an update or two within that time. microslop’s solution? “sync your files to onedrive”.
this is why windows sucks for developing unless you’re locked into microslop’s development programs.
if you’re doing c#, batch, .NET, or even Java, you’re probably fine using Windows. if you’re doing 80% of the rest of any development, you’re better off using Linux.
You could have had some great points, but the fact that you use “microslop” unironically shows how much of a bias you have. Meaning your points might as well not exist.
You sound like an anti-vaxxer blaming everything wrong with their life on big pharma.
I’ve been maining Windows with WSL at work, and it works great, till it doesn’t. And then it just sucks, and sucks, and sucks.
Almost always has to do with processes on WSL.not being killed by connectors to their windows counterparts. And docker desktop, holy hell, docker desktop and WSL just love to turn WSL into sludge.
I’ve been fighting with it for years, WSL is an awesome idea, it works great when it works. But as soon as you out real development loads onto it it just folds.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big proper company” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are set on windows for life for all time.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
Lmao mac elitists
Don’t have to be a mac elitist to reject windows
Windows is shit for most things. Especially shit for development.
this is entire statement is ridiculous. anyone who puts a completely closed system above anything isbretarded. and since you are retarded i have to explain that open system does not mean open source.
you probably thing development is made up of front end and back end like op. when in fact front and back tohlgther is web dev and web dev is a very small portion of development.
As someone who does cross-platform development: everything on Mac takes twice as long, and breaks with every OS update. And that’s without even the switch from PPC to Intel 32 bit to Intel 64 bit to ARM.
I’m exaggerating a bit, and I’m sure in many environments Mac is easy enough. But for us - there’s a reason we have more Mac developers than Windows and Linux combined, and it’s not because people want a Mac.
What makes it shit for development? I’ve been using windows as a developer for almost 10 years. I have switched to Linux at home, but I don’t develop on that PC. So I’d honestly like to hear whats so bad about it, and why is your preferred OS better?
over the past 10 years microslop has become increasingly hostile towards developers and encouraging vendor lock-in.
just over the last 5 years alone, microslop has stolen finite resources and refused to relinquish them under the guise of a better “user experience”. these resources are important to the stability and development of systems locally. unfortunately microslop’s solution is “use Azure remote services”.
everything microslop does is to drive users to their cloud services.
I’ll put it down to numbers for you if it’s not clear.
I can spend $1000 on a laptop, install Linux, and run 20± containers AND have a usable desktop environment for the next 10+ years.
or
I can spend $1500 on a laptop, install microslop and run 5+ containers AND have a slightly sluggish desktop environment for the next 6 months to a year, PLUS have my entire device bricked by an update or two within that time. microslop’s solution? “sync your files to onedrive”.
this is why windows sucks for developing unless you’re locked into microslop’s development programs.
if you’re doing c#, batch, .NET, or even Java, you’re probably fine using Windows. if you’re doing 80% of the rest of any development, you’re better off using Linux.
You could have had some great points, but the fact that you use “microslop” unironically shows how much of a bias you have. Meaning your points might as well not exist.
You sound like an anti-vaxxer blaming everything wrong with their life on big pharma.
you could have argued against my great points but instead you fixated on a singular word that rustled your jimmies. Meaning your opinions are invalid.
I couldn’t understand most of what you said because of that sloppy microcock in your mouth.
ill argue. the last 5 years has saw significant inprovment for developers.
the dev drive
sudo
ssh
a fantastic terminal
WSL—and the ability it provides to run Linux on Windows—is actually quite convenient
But if all you need Windows for is a VM to run Linux, then just run Linux
It is, but WSL is also pretty much shit.
I’ve been maining Windows with WSL at work, and it works great, till it doesn’t. And then it just sucks, and sucks, and sucks.
Almost always has to do with processes on WSL.not being killed by connectors to their windows counterparts. And docker desktop, holy hell, docker desktop and WSL just love to turn WSL into sludge.
I’ve been fighting with it for years, WSL is an awesome idea, it works great when it works. But as soon as you out real development loads onto it it just folds.
Visual studio is pretty ok with it’s debugging functionalities.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big proper company” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are set on windows for life for all time.
Meanwhile, the people at Red Hat are left asking, “are we a joke to you?”
Ubuntu and Suse join the chat
Ubuntu is even more hostile towards developers than microslop.
Red Hat is not really meant for the desktop.
IBM, which owns Red Hat, uses Fedora for the Linux desktop for engineers who want Linux.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
I’m just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.
Whoops. I commented, decided to rephrase and edited. But it didn’t result in an edit and I didn’t notice as that’s when I went to bed.
It was just a light hearted dig, no need to explain yourself .
It’s what happens if you submit a comment and fall for the egregious lie that is Lemmy telling you it didn’t go through
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
I’m just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.
I think this person actually wants to run linux, but they are using Mac as a test case.
They mentioned “install an alternative operating system” - which on hardware sold for Windows very much implies Linux.
But if Linux is a no, and even macos is a no - which is from a “big and proper organisation” with support agreements and everything - then the company is obviously a lost cause who are dead-set on windows for life for all time.
I’m just replying to see if you copy the same response, for science.