• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      If you think FDR didn’t show true allegiance to Workers, Labor, and Unions, you have no idea what you are talking about. He didn’t just give it lip service to get elected, he strongly supported major reforms to the entire business realm. We went from dangerous, low paying sweatshops, to the modern workplace, entirely because of FDR’s unwavering support of labor.

      And Conservatives have hated him ever since, and have spent every minute since then trying to get back to the pre-FDR workplace standards.

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          I don’t know how you think that proves your point that Roosevelt only took those positions to win the election. He created policies and programs that helped American citizens through the Great Depression, who rewarded him by voting for him. That’s how politics is supposed to work.

          I always appreciate it when my opponent proves my point for me.

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        I mean he kind of had to or admit he changed his rhetoric merely to keep capitalism alive. People still cared about appearances, back then.

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          What are you talking about? He didn’t “change his rhetoric.” He was governor of NY when the Great Depression hit, and like a leader should, he changed priorities to deal with this overwhelming event. He did a good job, and people voted for him for president.

          That’s what politicians are supposed to do, not make empty promises to get votes, and then make excuses as to why they can’t do it. FDR followed through, and established an entirely new, more humane, working environment for American citizens.

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      Good things done for bad reasons are still good. Would you rather have a reaper who protects life so as to har est more souls or life who cleanses all so as to raise the value of what survives?

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        What? That doesn’t even make sense. Death is a natural part of the life cycle, just as “night” is a natural part of the day cycle, whether in the Arctic regions or the roughly 24 hour regions.

        No one said good things can’t come from ill intentions, one might pause and ask, “if I hadn’t settled for a hot dog for a hundred years, growing an intestinal tumor for my troubles so that now I can’t eat and pay rent, might I be enjoying decent housing, food, clean water and adequate medical care as a human right?”