• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    > Fires the guy whose job was assassinating heads of state

    > Gets assassinated

    > Guy who got fired gets on the investigative comittee which fucks up the investigation

    Who could it be 🤔

  • Alas Poor Erinaceus@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    I must say that from the Zapruder film, it really does look like he was shot from the front the second (?) time.

    The first time they ever showed the complete film on TV was, I think, sometime in the 70s on a show hosted by Geraldo Rivera wearing bell bottoms (or something like that), and he warned the audience before showing it that “this is going to be pretty heavy, man.”

    Somewhere down the JFK assassination documentary rabbit hole, I remember one commentator saying something like “we’re trying to determine the reality of an event from a series of two-dimensional moving images,” or something along those lines.

    Anyway, noodling about this probably isn’t the best use of my time . . .

  • whiskers165@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    I love the theory that the second shooter was a secret service agent accidentally shooting their gun and hitting Kennedy while surprised reacting to the first shot, jumpy twitchy trigger finger. Explains the weird trajectory discrepancies

    Idk if I believe it but I like it lol

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      This is arguably the worst theory of all, even considering the insipid lone gunman story that some members of the Warren Commission couldn’t pretend they bought. I believe Well There’s Your Problem proliferated it, which is a podcast actually related to British government officials and “anti-disinformation” people. Lol. By the way this never ends if you get interested in it. Never. Just keeps going and going until you realize everything you were expected to like about the west is just Epstein. Hate everything NOW

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    CIA and the MIC for sacking Dulles, warming to Cuba, and indicating that he would slow down / put the brakes on interventions in Vietnam and SA.

    JFK was still an anti-communist imperialist, but he increasingly thought the best strategy for winning the cold war, and getting the world to line up behind US wasn’t more war, but soft-power initiatives like the space race, and more equitable economic ties with global south countries. His disagreements with chancellor Dulles led to his killing, Dulles’ restoration, and Dulles heading the investigation of JFK’s murder.

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      Castro and Khrushchev were feeling very positive towards JFK in the period just before he was assassinated. Castro never wanted hostile relations with the US in the first place (which makes sense for a very small country positioned just off the coast of the US). Likewise the USSR never wanted to just annihilate the US and in fact one of the causes of the Sino-Soviet split was that Khrushchev was interested in peaceful co-existence with the US. My own theory is that the Cuban Missile Crisis had a profound impact on JFK and Khrushchev. These were the only two men in human history who were both just a button push away from potentially destroying humanity. I think they both stood on the brink together and left that conflict with an understanding that things couldn’t go on like they had up to that point.

      The idea that Cuba or the USSR had anything to do with assassinating JFK is absurd, IMO.

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    I suspect the involvement of the CIA or some of their rogue assets, either mobsters or gusanos. He was allegedly warming towards Cuba, and I think that may have been part of the motivation. Blowback Season 2 made a pretty convincing argument for that scenario.

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    This isn’t my bailiwick, but I think Peter Dale Scott and Arron Good may have some of the best answers. I don’t pay much attention to the matter, but IIRC, James Angleton and the Dulles brothers very likely were involved. It helps to ask: who covered up what really happened?

  • Alas Poor Erinaceus@lemmy.ml
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    Getting into crackpot territory here, but I think the assassination might very well have had some connection to MKULTRA. The CIA destroyed all the files related to this, and so unless they missed some, we’ll probably never know for certain.

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      By MKULTRA link, do you mean Dr. Jolyon West visiting the imprisoned Jack Ruby who shortly afterward was discovered to have been permanently rendered a gibbering lunatic talking about hearing and seeing Nanking Massacre-esque scenes all around him?

  • Today@lemmy.world
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    I met a guy named Sam Pate. He was a radio guy in Dallas in the 60s and was live on the air when it happened. He told me that the shooter escaped down the storm drain (they were much bigger then before the street was resurfaced), went through the tunnels under the city, and was on a plane to Chicago by the time Kennedy was pronounced dead. https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/sam-pate-oral-history/