A WSJ investigation tracked the U.S. citizens caught in the crosshairs of an aggressive government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters

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      The MAGA idiots that voted for Trump still support Trump. My neighbor is overjoyed that we are at war. I’ve never been so disgusted by a boomer’s behavior.

      My other idiot boomer friend is not MAGA, but he is Republican. And he will continue to vote Republican, even though he hates Trump.

      They never learn. It’s always “well, next time it’ll be different”. And, in that respect, they are exactly like Democrats.

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        Yep, last I heard Trump still has above 30% support among Americans, including all the shit about ICE, tax cuts for the 1%, taking affordable healthcare away from people, undermining the economy with tariffs, breaking relations with former allies, failing to support Ukraine, and now entering a completely unnecessary illegal and war destabilizing the region and and even Europe to some degree, that benefit no-one but Israel and Putin.

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          I mean, what else could they even do? Vote for the DEMONcrats? They believe all kinds of wild things about the Democratic Party. They think the Democrats are going to defund the police, have boys get made into girls at school, flood the country with illegals that will rape your wife and daughters, and on and on…

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            flood the country with illegals that will rape your wife and daughters

            That would take jobs away from good American presidents and his friends.

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            I mean, what else could they even do? Vote for the DEMONcrats?

            Yes ABSOLUTELY!! And then join the party, and participate actively in politics to move Democrats to improve (reform) democracy in USA.
            That’s what they should have done at least since the 80’s, where it became clear there was a problem.
            Instead Americans have abandoned both politics and unions, and are now completely without power, that has been yielded to the 1% instead!

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              No one likes democrats. They lost (or worse, didn’t fight a stolen election) to a pedophile loser rapist reality tv piece of shit.

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                This has been a problem since the 80’s, it’s not a new problem that suddenly happened. It may be to late now, but in case it isn’t, this is the best way forward for Americans.

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        Doesn’t make much difference anyway. When they elect someone like Trump twice, Americans have shown very clearly they don’t deserve to have democracy as a people.

        It’s sad for the ones that are more moderate and responsible, but they are a minority, and we can’t judge a country by a minority.

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          they don’t deserve to have democracy as a people

          Hey fuck you. Eat shit. Die in a fucking chemical car fire. No, better yet, live through one and be horribly disfigured and live out your days in unbearable pain.

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          The political compass normalizes most right wingers as being moderate. Liberalism has created this situation. You cannot legislate your way to ethical capitalism.

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            You cannot legislate your way to ethical capitalism.

            I disagree, that’s exactly what we’ve done in Scandinavia.

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              You make it sound like creative tax planning, union busting, gig economy and other forms of exploitation of workers don’t exist in Scandinavia… And I’m just naming a few of the many problems with “ethical capitalism”, as you call it.

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                Nope union busting does not exist, and the gig economy is tiny, and the little there is, is based on fair pay.
                Obviously there is creative tax planning, that’s kind of a game of whack a mole. Difference here is that we try to have fair tax regulation, contrary to USA that favor the rich, so much so they don’t even have to be creative.

                There is actually a difference between a democracy that works for the people, and one that works for the rich.

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                  People are being threatened and/or fired for organizing workers at their workplace. I don’t know what your definition of union busting is, but it happens over and over in Sweden.

                  Example:

                  https://www.arbetaren.se/2024/10/14/varslades-fran-zalandoshylager-nar-arbetsshykoparen-fick-veta-hans-roll-i-facket/

                  Another example, from Finland:

                  https://yle.fi/a/7-10077702

                  Strikebreaking is still a thing, and while very much illegal in its traditional form employers have figured out new ways to legally do it by importing labour from other countries:

                  https://www.transportarbetaren.se/strejkbryteriet-ar-tillbaka/

                  And regarding the general exploitation of workers, especially low-paying precarious jobs that require hard labour:

                  https://www.dagensmedicin.se/arbetsliv/arbetsmiljo/fack-stammer-apotea-for-manga-overtidstimmar/

                  I don’t know which country you are from, but it doesn’t really matter is I am quite sure these things happen there as well.

                  Capitalism is an antithesis to ethics; you can’t have a capitalist economy without exploiting your workers, and while you can have more or less “nice” employers the absolute majority of them will find ways to fuck you over when push comes to shove.

                  Companies exist to make as much profit as possible, and they lose their power if their workers start organizing. That’s why they will find every way to (legally or not) stop that from happening (as seen in the examples I have linked to above).

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                    Technically Finland is not Scandinavian. IDK Swedish law, but here in Denmark it’s illegal to fire people for unionizing. I would expect both Sweden and Finland to have similar worker protections.
                    There are always people that act outside the law, and I suspect your examples aren’t much better than complaining about the unsafe work environment for bank robbers.
                    I don’t care to read your anecdotes, just to tear them apart. Yes Tesla is not unionized in Sweden, but they are an exception, and it is costing them dearly. But every worker at Tesla can go somewhere else that is unionized, and that makes it impossible for Tesla to exploit workers, they probably have to offer better conditions to keep their workers from going elsewhere. Including paying fair wages, having good work conditions, and offering 5 weeks holiday, and paid leave when having a child. All things that are not normal in USA, because unions are not protected by law.
                    Again conditions in Scandinavian countries are better than any country that calls itself non capitalist.
                    So you are trying to argue that the countries that are the best to live in for both the poor and average people, do not have a good system. But some system that only exist in fantasy should be better.
                    You are delusional

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              Better than some countries, but still participating in capitalism, which cannot exist without exploitation.

              You’re a member of NATO, yeah?

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                Capitalism is not the basis of society, the law is. And just because we have free markets, doesn’t automatically lead to exploitation. Exploitation is way worse in countries that claim they are not capitalist. All the best countries in the world to live in, are free market democracies.

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                  Spoken like a truly indoctrinated westerner. Everything about your life has been defined by capitalism, including the “law” you mention. Our capitalist societies have enabled the elites to create those laws which do not apply to them.

                  The lesser developed countries that have had the western boots on their throats would also like a word.

                  France, Great Britain, and the US, along with it’s NATO allies have been fist fucking the world for a very long. It’s ignorant to call it a free market. It’s looting the global south.

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                    You simply can’t have huge advanced societies without having some sort of leadership of different kinds.
                    That leadership will always be possible to call an elite in any society the size of a country of millions of people.
                    The difference between a functioning democracy and other countries, is that the elite doesn’t get to decide everything. The people actually have a say.
                    Show me a country that doesn’t have an elite, or shut the fuck up with your nonsense.