• ragepaw@lemmy.ca
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    Fucking arrogance to imply that the US won either of those wars. The alliances won, not a single country.

    But it you want to rally push for an answer, in WWI, the UK nearly bankrupted themselves paying for the war. France and the UK fielded much larger armies than the US by double. And Canada, one of the smaller players in the war, during the hundred day offensive, was responsible for killing a quarter of the German soldiers, while only making up 3% of the fighting force.

    In WWII, the Soviets killed more Germans than everyone else put together by 4 times. Americans also conveniently forget that the rest of us were fighting 3 years before they joined. I’m not diminishing the US and their role, but to imply the US won, like they did it alone is just fucking insulting.

    As a note, on D-Day, Canadians troops pushed further and deeper into France than either the US or UK on the initial landing. I could also point out that had Canadians not won the Battle of the Scheldt, the war could have gone a very different way. Antwerp was essential to get supplies to the fighting forces. I don’t care how important the US thinks they were, they wouldn’t have done much winning without food, bullets or bandages.

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    to be fair, they really did accomplish what they wanted in afghanistan and iraq, which was just to destroy them.

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      They didn’t, either time. But reality got in the way of the meme so OP ignored it.

      The first Iraq war was an unqualified success. There’s really no way around that. Should they have gone the whole way and removed Saddam from power? Maybe. But the goal of the war was to protect Kuwait and that goal was accomplished.

      The second Iraq war was stupid, unnecessary, messy, pointless, badly mismanaged, and came at a staggeringly high cost. But it was successful. They achieved the regime change they wanted and ultimately created a puppet state in the Middle East. They’re using Iraqi bases right now in their attacks on Iran, something that would not possible if that war had been a failure.

      Doesn’t make it a good idea. Getting what you want isn’t great if you massively overpay for it.

      Afghanistan, on the other hand, absolutely counts as a loss. The US got nothing that they wanted - it didn’t even lead to the death of Bin Laden since he was hiding out in Pakistan - and wasted a tonne of lives and resources to ultimately just put the country back in the hands of the Taliban and give them a whole bunch of military hardware.

      • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.onlineOP
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        Oh, so winning the US is having a “quick” war turn into a 20 year quagmire that kills over a million people that leads entire parts of the country under local and tribal governance where no central US puppet ever gained control is a success? You’re a fucking idiot

        Iraq was a massive failure in policy, in execution and in human death toll. If you think the Americans came out of that victorious you are literally a moron. Just because they have bases doesn’t mean they won, they stalemated at best and are still paying for an occupation that is going nowhere that is leading to a bigger regional failure in progress.

        Death to America. You are a propagandized fool and tool of empire.

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        Doesn’t make it a good idea. Getting what you want isn’t great if you massively overpay for it.

        Yankees really are savages, that’s not the reason why the Iraq wars were “not a good idea” or why it’s counted as a failure.

        Death to Amerikkka

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      “Four – soon to be five – times back-to-back war losers: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq” for those who had as much trouble parsing the second panel as I had.

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    Man they can’t even make their own shit, this is just a shitty burger Reich version of the Vietnam War champs hat

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    For those who had as much trouble parsing the second panel as I had: “Four – soon to be five – times back-to-back war losers: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq”.

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    Errm. Weren’t the Taliban in control before the coalition went into Afghanistan, and I’m pretty sure last time I heard anything about Afghanistan the Taliban were still there in control.

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    Democrats were president during both world wars. Republicans are president when we lose wars.