In China a notable example is the raising of the median income significantly, to almost 40k USD last I checked, essentially lifting a huge amount of people out of poverty.
The USSR raised life expectancy and HDI significantly, and when it collapsed both fell sharply in the resulting countries.
Was that income after Deng opened up China as the world’s manufactory? That giant amount of support from capital seems to be more effective than any decision communism made.
You cannot take that “support” out of the context of the decisions made by communists. Without the efforts made in “Mao-era” china, agriculture, industrialization, education, etc., the reform and opening up would likely have gone differently, china would probably look more like India and Brazil. And during (and after) reform and opening up, china actively steered the economy and set priorities, they continued to hold, as dessalines points out, the commanding heights of the economy, and used 5 year plans. So yes, you can say it was the “support” (capital) that came into china which made them richer, but only in context.
Reform and Opening Up was a plan devised by communists to more quickly achieve communism, and was made in such a fashion that built upon the existing socialist system, not undermining it.
Both Mao and Deng era’s both had foreign investment, and high growth rates compared to capitalist countries.
Both are still built on the foundation of socialism: 5 year plans, no private land ownership, public ownership commanding the heights of the economy, and a smaller capitalist sector for foreign investment.
From 1949-1978, the Mao Era, China’s GDP grew an average of 7% per annum. Mao sincerely wanted the Chinese to get rich, just that all that wealth must be distributed as equally as possible. This is reflected in China’s 1978 GINI coefficient being a very egalitarian 0.16. A GINI coefficient of zero means that all the income is evenly distributed to all citizens and a coefficient of one means one person has all the income and everybody else has nothing. As a comparison, Sweden’s is currently 0.25, the lowest in the world, China’s is 0.37, the US’s is 0.41 and for all of humanity, 0.65. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
With the advent of Deng Xiaoping’s reforms and opening up China’s economy to do battle with Western capitalism(the Deng Era, 1979-2012), China’s economy has grown an average of 10% per annum, while America’s growth averaged 6%. A not-well-known point of history is that many of Deng’s reforms were actually started by Mao, Deng and Zhou Enlai, going back into the 70s and 60s, which helps explain the Mao Era’s phenomenal socioeconomic achievements. These earlier reforms were cleverly rebranded as “new” by Deng. Western capitalists eagerly lapped it up, in their lustful pursuit of Chinese profits, starting in 1978.
These imperial lies have continued into the Deng Era. China is still a communist and socialist country. Baba Beijing has simply used the West’s methods, markets, investment and technology to continue to advance the wellbeing of China’s people, within its non-capitalist economy. This is hard for most Westerners to wrap their heads around, that China has been and continues to be a communist and socialist country, till now, 2015, and will continue to be so as long as Baba Beijing is in power. This explains why the West has been relentlessly trying to overthrow the Communist Party of China (CPC), since liberation in 1949.
it did a lot of harm before the party leaders learned how to control it and it led to occupy wall street style protests in the late 80’s which included the tiannamen square protest.
that event forced the party to devise ways to neuter the harmful aspects of capitalism that were taking root in the country because of deng’s reforms and it’s been a continuous try/fail effort ever since.
In China a notable example is the raising of the median income significantly, to almost 40k USD last I checked, essentially lifting a huge amount of people out of poverty.
The USSR raised life expectancy and HDI significantly, and when it collapsed both fell sharply in the resulting countries.
Was that income after Deng opened up China as the world’s manufactory? That giant amount of support from capital seems to be more effective than any decision communism made.
You cannot take that “support” out of the context of the decisions made by communists. Without the efforts made in “Mao-era” china, agriculture, industrialization, education, etc., the reform and opening up would likely have gone differently, china would probably look more like India and Brazil. And during (and after) reform and opening up, china actively steered the economy and set priorities, they continued to hold, as dessalines points out, the commanding heights of the economy, and used 5 year plans. So yes, you can say it was the “support” (capital) that came into china which made them richer, but only in context.
Reform and Opening Up was a plan devised by communists to more quickly achieve communism, and was made in such a fashion that built upon the existing socialist system, not undermining it.
Both Mao and Deng era’s both had foreign investment, and high growth rates compared to capitalist countries.
Both are still built on the foundation of socialism: 5 year plans, no private land ownership, public ownership commanding the heights of the economy, and a smaller capitalist sector for foreign investment.
it did a lot of harm before the party leaders learned how to control it and it led to occupy wall street style protests in the late 80’s which included the tiannamen square protest.
that event forced the party to devise ways to neuter the harmful aspects of capitalism that were taking root in the country because of deng’s reforms and it’s been a continuous try/fail effort ever since.