• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    Of course not. We have only two choices of party:

    1. The Fascist party.

    2. The party that tells you to vote for them lest the Fascists win, but when elected, does nothing to fight the Fascists, reverse their worst atrocities, or prevent them from coming back to power.

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      when elected, does nothing to fight the Fascists, reverse their worst atrocities, or prevent them from coming back to power

      Yep. If Democrats ever gain power again, watch them keep ICE pretty much the same way it is now, keep most of Trump’s tariffs, not restore SNAP or USAID funding to previous levels, etc, etc, etc.

      We just have to be grateful that the lesser evil party didn’t add too many new atrocities before they calmly and politely cede power to the fascists again.

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        Exactly. Could one of the blue MAGA folks let me know when Newsom publicly announces he supports completely dismantling DHS and rolling back the post-9/11 surveillance state? You cannot seriously pretend to want to fight fascism if dismantling the tools of the fascists isn’t the first thing you intend to do when in power.

        It has some serious Lord of the Rings vibes. The surveillance state and the unconstitutional powers created after 9/11 are this immensely powerful tool created for evil ends. But after the evil is defeated, the nominally good guys choose to not to dismantle the evil tools, but to keep them, telling themselves that they will be used for good. Except they cannot be used for good, as they are fundamentally evil. Meanwhile I’m over here shouting, “cast it into the fire!” But they decide to keep it every time.

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      It’s like you have absolutely no understanding of how the system actually works, and have chosen to ignore history.

      The GOP is never going to cede one inch to the Dems on anything, ever. Obama picked the ACA plan because it was based on a GOP idea and they fought him tooth and nail until the final vote. Then they turned around and demanded the Supreme Court abolish it.

      The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

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        YOU have chosen to ignore history. And how typically in authoritarian takeovers, the first step to fighting the takeover is to abandon the captured opposition party and to start fresh with something new. A popular front is usually needed to defeat them. Authoritarians often let toothless opposition parties continue to operate. And there are always blind fools like yourself who insist that they must be supported, though they are just another tool of the autocrat.

        The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

        This shows you are not a serious person. If that is your solution, then I can only conclude that you actually support Trump and the Fascist party.

        Democrats are not a real opposition party. They are the potemkin opposition, fully captured by the Fascists.

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          Dems right now are Fascist light not as crazy but fucking useless and on the same payroll as fascist full fat

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          So, what exactly is your plan for the 2026 election?

          How exactly are you going to counter Trump?

          Be specific and provide as many details as possible.

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            You guys should do like the French, really. Revolt. Anything short of that won’t achieve shit.

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            Fuck elections. General strike until our demands are met.

            Hold their precious ‘economy’ hostage while we still can – before they replace us all with robots.

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              Nice idea.

              Now provide the details of how you do it.

              It’s easy to say things, not that easy to make them happen.

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        Obama picked the ACA plan because it was based on a GOP idea and they fought him tooth and nail until the final vote. Then they turned around and demanded the Supreme Court abolish it.

        The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

        They had a Dem supermajority during that time. And what did they do with it? They bent over backwards trying to ‘reach across the aisle’ and giving the GOP every single thing they asked for.

        Expect the same thing if they come into power again.

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          And what is your alternative?

          What should we do in the 2026 elections?

          Please provide a detailed plan.

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        Pot meet kettle. A Dem supermajority means nothing when they do nothing but play controlled opposition.

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    This is why we need a new party in America that’s actually left of center.

    National ranked choice voting, get rid of electoral college, outlaw gerrymandering, restructure the Supreme Court, overturn citizens united, restore the fairness doctrine, and we will finally have some viable options. It will probably take an Article V constitutional convention to get there.

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    Wash away the political class, kill Citizens United, and start the slate clean. Anyone eith “connections” is isolated and not allowed back in. All freshies. All new parties. (Until we can abolish the State that is)