• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    It’s like you have absolutely no understanding of how the system actually works, and have chosen to ignore history.

    The GOP is never going to cede one inch to the Dems on anything, ever. Obama picked the ACA plan because it was based on a GOP idea and they fought him tooth and nail until the final vote. Then they turned around and demanded the Supreme Court abolish it.

    The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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      Obama picked the ACA plan because it was based on a GOP idea and they fought him tooth and nail until the final vote. Then they turned around and demanded the Supreme Court abolish it.

      The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

      They had a Dem supermajority during that time. And what did they do with it? They bent over backwards trying to ‘reach across the aisle’ and giving the GOP every single thing they asked for.

      Expect the same thing if they come into power again.

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        3 hours ago

        And what is your alternative?

        What should we do in the 2026 elections?

        Please provide a detailed plan.

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      YOU have chosen to ignore history. And how typically in authoritarian takeovers, the first step to fighting the takeover is to abandon the captured opposition party and to start fresh with something new. A popular front is usually needed to defeat them. Authoritarians often let toothless opposition parties continue to operate. And there are always blind fools like yourself who insist that they must be supported, though they are just another tool of the autocrat.

      The only way you’ll get any change under the current system is to elect a Dem super majority in every election for the next fifty years.

      This shows you are not a serious person. If that is your solution, then I can only conclude that you actually support Trump and the Fascist party.

      Democrats are not a real opposition party. They are the potemkin opposition, fully captured by the Fascists.

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        Dems right now are Fascist light not as crazy but fucking useless and on the same payroll as fascist full fat

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        3 hours ago

        So, what exactly is your plan for the 2026 election?

        How exactly are you going to counter Trump?

        Be specific and provide as many details as possible.

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          You guys should do like the French, really. Revolt. Anything short of that won’t achieve shit.

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              Your people are threatening to invade my neighbouring country. Americans made this mess. Americans get to fix it.

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                  Trump isn’t the problem. Lop his head off and you’ll have achieved catharsis but it won’t be a solution to any problems. A lot more heads need to roll before anything is solved.

                  You can’t vote your way out of it because the system is built for those with money. You need to change the entire system and no one who is currently benefiting from that system will aid you in that.

        • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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          Fuck elections. General strike until our demands are met.

          Hold their precious ‘economy’ hostage while we still can – before they replace us all with robots.

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            Nice idea.

            Now provide the details of how you do it.

            It’s easy to say things, not that easy to make them happen.

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              1: Gather a group of people. (I’ve got a few, need a lot more.)

              2: Come up with a list of demands those people can mostly agree on. (I’ve got ideas, of course, but so does everybody. It’s not my place to unilaterally decide what the strike’s demands will be.)

              3: Mutual aid networks to assist people who get fired from their jobs (or worse) in retaliation for participating in the strike. Build emergency caches of food, household essentials, arms, and medical supplies. Organize temporary shelter plans for anyone made homeless by participating in the strike. (I’ve got plenty of food to share if necessary, and I have a camper trailer in my back yard someone can stay in if necessary. And I’ve got a bunch of old lumber and building supplies I could slap together into some additional makeshift huts if really necessary – they wouldn’t have indoor plumbing, but they’d at least have a roof, walls, and heat. I could support 2 or 3 people easily. Maybe 5 to 10 in a pinch.)

              4: Announce the strike. Begin withholding labor and minimizing all economic participation until the demands from Step 2 are met. (Not only refuse to sell your labor, but also refuse to buy anything, as much as possible. Also, for good measure, withdraw all your money from the bank so they can’t collect interest on it.) (This does not mean that participants will ‘do no work’ and just sit around all day. You still have work – supporting the strike. Work in a food kitchen to support those going hungry because they’re on strike. Deliver food and supplies to strikers who can’t make it to that kitchen. Build temporary shelters for strikers who need them. Provide security against the inevitable strike-busting violence. Etc.)

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      Pot meet kettle. A Dem supermajority means nothing when they do nothing but play controlled opposition.