• Peanut@sopuli.xyz
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    3 hours ago

    as i said,

    the meme does NOT say to call out people offended by “fuck nazis”

    there would be no issue if it said that. we all agree with that.

    it says to call out people who are offended by being called nazis,

    and people who call out the incorrect framing are conflated with arguing a non-existent point, because comprehending framing is too much work i guess

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      Lol. No it doesn’t.

      Here is what it literally says:

      1. Post ‘fuck nazis’.
      2. Watch for the ‘don’t call people you disagree with nazis!’ comments.
      3. You found the nazis.

      Nowhere does it tell you to call out people. The second point tells you to watch for specific kind of comments. That’s 100% passive.

      You know, exactly those kind of comments you provided.

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        3 hours ago

        “i’m going to ignore all of your points and simplify things again in a way that’s convenient for me.” literally what MAGA cultists do.

        “don’t call people you disagree with nazis!” is unfortunately also what people say when people call non-nazis ‘nazis,’ such as progressive groups like feminists or atheists.

        now suddenly both are nazis? and they have to fight each-other instead of the heritage foundation?

        why can’t a single person here actually engage with this part of the conversation instead of the made up one they want to simplify to?

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          Lol, you’re funny. Nobody is calling anybody a nazi here. Only people outing themselves.

          Let me spell it out for you again: being called a nazi is not some common experience people make. In general, people don’t feel like this is some huge problem that needs a broad discussion.

          And of course I’m sure as fuck not engaging in your straw man discussions, haha. ‘Uhhh, don’t call people something they’re not, uhhh’. We’re not kindergarten children.

          It’s funny to see you desperately trying to justify why the fuck you are so triggered by this to such an extent.