• fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works
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      10 hours ago

      I wish I could see Iranians as some sort of freedom fighters standing up against the Zionist agenda.

      Unfortunately, Iran’s leadership means the country is even worse than Israel.

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        41 minutes ago

        It’s the Netanyahu agenda. He’s just like trump.

        He’s a fraudster who got reelected when he should be in jail.

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        I don’t really see why Iran is any worse than Israel, other than Iran has brown people living in it. Once you cut past all the crap and bad faith, ultimately we judge Iran worse than Israel because of skin color.

        Both are nominal but deeply flawed democracies. Both hold large numbers of political dissidents on bogus charges as a matter of course. Both are theocracies that make their religion a core component of their governmental structure. Both engage in large scale acts of mass state-sponsored terrorism. Both have or seek to have a nuclear arsenal.

        The only real difference I can see is that Iran hasn’t invaded anyone in the whole modern history of the country. The Iranian government is a bunch of peace-and-love hippies compared to the Israelis.

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            On what criteria are they worse than Israel? Neither are good. They’re both authoritarian theocratic hellholes. One is a rogue state with a nuclear arsenal, the other is a rogue state seeking a nuclear arsenal. But Iran hasn’t invaded any nation in its modern history, while Israel invades people on the regular.

            You need to open your eyes. You don’t even know why Iran is bad. You’ve just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.

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              On what criteria are they worse than Israel?

              Treatment of their civilians.

              You need to open your eyes. You don’t even know why Iran is bad. You’ve just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.

              This is rich. If I didn’t think so little of the average internet-user, I’d assume you were trolling.

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          Regime kills about 30.000 people in a few days – gets called “peace-and-love hippies”.

          Also I don’t dig that crap about skin color.

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            If you gave a single fuck about Iranians, you’d know that the better and newer estimates hover around the thousands and not tens of thousands. For reference, estimates of dead Palestinians since Oct 7th due to violence and privation of food, water, energy and medicine, range in the half million.

            How many tens of thousands of Iranians have been murdered by US+EU sanctions knowing that said sanctions murder half a million people worldwide EVERY YEAR?

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                And meanwhile, Israel has instituted a policy of the deliberate mass execution of journalists on an industrial scale.

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                  So you trust the Iranians simply because they’re not Israeli? Even though they’ve done everything to conceal as much information as possible?

                  Interesting.

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                    Who said I trust the Iranian government? It’s simply obvious that Israel-associated media inflates the figures. Parroting Israeli propaganda uncritically is unwise.

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        Growing up and forming adult political views usually just means realizing that everyone is fucking evil as fuck.

        We’re in the warhammer 40,000 universe but without the cool capes and swords.