James Van Der Beek just died of cancer and his family just had to hold a fundraiser because cancer treatments apparently wiped out their family finances.
That’s a guy who’s net worth was in the millions. A guy with millions went nearly bankrupt in the American Don’t Give A Care system. Meanwhile, here I am paying 10K a year for my family only to pay another 10K in deductibles a year to hopefully die quickly if something goes wrong.
Gee wonder why I have no faith in American healthcare.
Oh and get scoped regularly, don’t just crap in a box, since colon cancer is the only cancer that’s on the rise and hitting younger people.
I think they’re recommending regular colonoscopy at age 45 now. That’s like once every five years unless they find something they want to keep track of.
But yeah, if you want to start earlier than that, do. The diet and prep the couple days before is far worse than the procedure.
He was on a hit TV show 20 years ago, but it was his breakout so he probably got no residuals
He wasn’t broke, he was a landlord that made like 12k/month off rent. But if his net worth was in the millions it was probably just like two LA houses that most likely still had mortgages. If you’re going off websites it’s probably reported wrong.
Like it’s applicable to everyone because insurance shouldn’t be tied to employment now that wages aren’t capped due to WW2 anymore, but it’s not like he was the 1% either. You gotta be well over 10 million for that.
Which should make us realize how bad wealth inequality has gotten. To the actual oligarchs Dawson and the rest of us are the same.
Even if you make it big young, if you don’t keep working you’ll never afford 40 years of health insurance.
He made at least one good investment and didn’t blow his money. But that wasn’t enough to cover a major medical condition.
The rest of us don’t stand a chance, and I fully expect to be what actually gets us socialized medicine is going to be people just throwing the towel in on major medical treatment.
If a 40 year old gets cancer, we’re going to see more and more people just start refusing the treatment.
Once that starts becoming normal (it’s already happening) people are going to stop paying insurance because they know they’ll never really use it.
That would crash the healthcare industry, and would make them “settle” for a socialized system they could still make profits.
As long as they’re making money, they’re happy. Which is why long term Obamacare just forcing people to pay for healthcare is probably a negative.
If it wasn’t for that, lots more people would have opted out of healthcare.
They don’t need us poors to make a profit. Half of all consumption spending in the US comes from the top 10% we are on track for that to narrow to the top 5% in my lifetime.
If people stop getting health insurance, they can just die. That’s the more plausible future.
Half of all consumption spending in the US comes from the top 10% we are on track for that to narrow to the top 5% in my lifetime.
Ok…
But regardless of if that’s true, how does that effect the profits of the American healthcare industry besides gift shop sales?
Because I just don’t understand why you think it’s relevant or why American Healthcare corporations would care more about that than how much profit they’re making…
Because us poors with 10k deductibles were not getting cancer treatment anyway. They won’t notice people skipping insurance that couldn’t afford to use their insurance in the first place. The insurance companies will notice, but they have no leverage. It’s a zero sum game between insurance companies and members.
They will focus on the top 10% because that’s where all the disposable income is. They will be happy they don’t have to fight with insurance companies anymore.
The only leak is emergency care that they can’t refuse to treat people.
They won’t notice people skipping insurance that couldn’t afford to use their insurance in the first place.
Their sweet spot is people paying for it and never using it.
All Obamacare really did, is kick the van down the road by penalizing people for making the choice not to have insurance
That was a bandaid and as it gets worse people will decide the penalty is still better. If the penalty goes away, a shit ton of people’s math would change at once and it would crash the entire industry.
If it still doesn’t make sense, I don’t think I can explain it any simpler.
The penalty has already gone away. Trump suspended it in his first term and Biden did not restore it. The law is still there but it’s not enforced.
Lots of Americans should self insure. Spending 1200 dollars a month only to have to spend 5000 dollars before copays and then getting a 50% discount is a stupid amount of money for a trivial benefit. You might as well put that 1200 dollars into a savings account and then at least you have 3-30k depending on how long you go before needing care.
I’m below 45 but I’m gonna try and talk my doctor into letting me get a test early for no reason other than my being paranoid. I’ve had a few hemorrhoids and my bowels smell odder than usual despite following the same diet, so I just wanna see what my options are.
Low iron worked for me. Mine might have been due to frequent blood donations if you can do those. Try to manage having labs drawn for the doctor shortly after donating (double red blood cells is best). This of course depends on your ability to donate and line up the two appointments appropriately as well as having a hemoglobin that can be dropped low enough to warrant further investigation. It might be a very niche suggestion, but it could work for someone else.
A relative of mine had a condition where he couldn’t get rid of excess iron. The treatment? Blood letting. Once his levels were back down to normal, donation every 3 months.
James Van Der Beek just died of cancer and his family just had to hold a fundraiser because cancer treatments apparently wiped out their family finances.
That’s a guy who’s net worth was in the millions. A guy with millions went nearly bankrupt in the American Don’t Give A Care system. Meanwhile, here I am paying 10K a year for my family only to pay another 10K in deductibles a year to hopefully die quickly if something goes wrong.
Gee wonder why I have no faith in American healthcare.
Oh and get scoped regularly, don’t just crap in a box, since colon cancer is the only cancer that’s on the rise and hitting younger people.
I think they’re recommending regular colonoscopy at age 45 now. That’s like once every five years unless they find something they want to keep track of.
But yeah, if you want to start earlier than that, do. The diet and prep the couple days before is far worse than the procedure.
It’s not as rare as people keep acting…
He was on a hit TV show 20 years ago, but it was his breakout so he probably got no residuals
He wasn’t broke, he was a landlord that made like 12k/month off rent. But if his net worth was in the millions it was probably just like two LA houses that most likely still had mortgages. If you’re going off websites it’s probably reported wrong.
Like it’s applicable to everyone because insurance shouldn’t be tied to employment now that wages aren’t capped due to WW2 anymore, but it’s not like he was the 1% either. You gotta be well over 10 million for that.
Which should make us realize how bad wealth inequality has gotten. To the actual oligarchs Dawson and the rest of us are the same.
Good reminder of the geometry of class struggle
Yep
Even if you make it big young, if you don’t keep working you’ll never afford 40 years of health insurance.
He made at least one good investment and didn’t blow his money. But that wasn’t enough to cover a major medical condition.
The rest of us don’t stand a chance, and I fully expect to be what actually gets us socialized medicine is going to be people just throwing the towel in on major medical treatment.
If a 40 year old gets cancer, we’re going to see more and more people just start refusing the treatment.
Once that starts becoming normal (it’s already happening) people are going to stop paying insurance because they know they’ll never really use it.
That would crash the healthcare industry, and would make them “settle” for a socialized system they could still make profits.
As long as they’re making money, they’re happy. Which is why long term Obamacare just forcing people to pay for healthcare is probably a negative.
If it wasn’t for that, lots more people would have opted out of healthcare.
They don’t need us poors to make a profit. Half of all consumption spending in the US comes from the top 10% we are on track for that to narrow to the top 5% in my lifetime.
If people stop getting health insurance, they can just die. That’s the more plausible future.
Ok…
But regardless of if that’s true, how does that effect the profits of the American healthcare industry besides gift shop sales?
Because I just don’t understand why you think it’s relevant or why American Healthcare corporations would care more about that than how much profit they’re making…
Because us poors with 10k deductibles were not getting cancer treatment anyway. They won’t notice people skipping insurance that couldn’t afford to use their insurance in the first place. The insurance companies will notice, but they have no leverage. It’s a zero sum game between insurance companies and members.
They will focus on the top 10% because that’s where all the disposable income is. They will be happy they don’t have to fight with insurance companies anymore.
The only leak is emergency care that they can’t refuse to treat people.
Their sweet spot is people paying for it and never using it.
All Obamacare really did, is kick the van down the road by penalizing people for making the choice not to have insurance
That was a bandaid and as it gets worse people will decide the penalty is still better. If the penalty goes away, a shit ton of people’s math would change at once and it would crash the entire industry.
If it still doesn’t make sense, I don’t think I can explain it any simpler.
The penalty has already gone away. Trump suspended it in his first term and Biden did not restore it. The law is still there but it’s not enforced.
Lots of Americans should self insure. Spending 1200 dollars a month only to have to spend 5000 dollars before copays and then getting a 50% discount is a stupid amount of money for a trivial benefit. You might as well put that 1200 dollars into a savings account and then at least you have 3-30k depending on how long you go before needing care.
I’m below 45 but I’m gonna try and talk my doctor into letting me get a test early for no reason other than my being paranoid. I’ve had a few hemorrhoids and my bowels smell odder than usual despite following the same diet, so I just wanna see what my options are.
Low iron worked for me. Mine might have been due to frequent blood donations if you can do those. Try to manage having labs drawn for the doctor shortly after donating (double red blood cells is best). This of course depends on your ability to donate and line up the two appointments appropriately as well as having a hemoglobin that can be dropped low enough to warrant further investigation. It might be a very niche suggestion, but it could work for someone else.
A relative of mine had a condition where he couldn’t get rid of excess iron. The treatment? Blood letting. Once his levels were back down to normal, donation every 3 months.