We agree that Marx believed Russia could have sidestepped capitalist development and gone straight from feudalism to the communalist movement to socialism to communism. However, he did not think this was more likely than revolution in western Europe. He simply saw it as it was, a great but likely squandered opportinity.
In other words, if Marx believed there was a 75% chance the revolution would first come to western Europe, and a 25% chance it would come to Russia, it is correct to say that he believed it would most likely come first to western Europe. It is, therefore, equally incorrect to say that he believed it could only happen in western Europe, as you allege I say (but I have disproven this), as it would be to say that Marx believed it would happen in Russia first (as you appear to be saying).
You’re getting labled a wrecker because there’s no logical explanation for why you would maintain that I claimed Marx said revolution could only happen in the west, and that it could only happen because they were developed capitalist countries. I never said anything of the sort, and even elaborated on my views to you. Instead, you jumped to condescending remarks, pretending that this is new information to me, and jump to insults.
I do agree, this isn’t ever going to get anywhere if you can’t even treat me with the respect of listening to what I said.
However, he did not think this was more likely than revolution in western Europe. He simply saw it as it was, a great but likely squandered opportinity.
We’ve been over this already, with sources I was able to provide. I directly responded to this. If you’re gonna complain about listening, don’t do it while repeating shit at me I already responded to.
I do agree, this isn’t ever going to get anywhere if you can’t even treat me with the respect of listening to what I said.
I listened to what you said, disagreed, and now you want to keep whining about it and insisting that its wrecker behaviour as if that’s respectful. Grow the fuck up or just leave it be.
We’ve been over this already, with sources I was able to provide. I directly responded to this. If you’re gonna complain about listening, don’t do it while repeating shit at me I already responded to.
And yet your sources contradict your claims, showing instead that Marx became convinced later in life of the real revolutionary opportunity in Russia, not that it outweighed the revolutionary opportunity in western Europe.
I listened to what you said, disagreed, and now you want to keep whining about it and insisting that its wrecker behaviour as if that’s respectful. Grow the fuck up or just leave it be.
Wrecker shit. You went beyond disagreement into misunderstanding, either deliberate, or deliberately refusing to acknowledge.
I suggest walking away, touching grass, and ideally joining an org if you aren’t already a part of one. All 3 would be immensely beneficial, I believe.
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We agree that Marx believed Russia could have sidestepped capitalist development and gone straight from feudalism to the communalist movement to socialism to communism. However, he did not think this was more likely than revolution in western Europe. He simply saw it as it was, a great but likely squandered opportinity.
In other words, if Marx believed there was a 75% chance the revolution would first come to western Europe, and a 25% chance it would come to Russia, it is correct to say that he believed it would most likely come first to western Europe. It is, therefore, equally incorrect to say that he believed it could only happen in western Europe, as you allege I say (but I have disproven this), as it would be to say that Marx believed it would happen in Russia first (as you appear to be saying).
You’re getting labled a wrecker because there’s no logical explanation for why you would maintain that I claimed Marx said revolution could only happen in the west, and that it could only happen because they were developed capitalist countries. I never said anything of the sort, and even elaborated on my views to you. Instead, you jumped to condescending remarks, pretending that this is new information to me, and jump to insults.
I do agree, this isn’t ever going to get anywhere if you can’t even treat me with the respect of listening to what I said.
We’ve been over this already, with sources I was able to provide. I directly responded to this. If you’re gonna complain about listening, don’t do it while repeating shit at me I already responded to.
I listened to what you said, disagreed, and now you want to keep whining about it and insisting that its wrecker behaviour as if that’s respectful. Grow the fuck up or just leave it be.
And yet your sources contradict your claims, showing instead that Marx became convinced later in life of the real revolutionary opportunity in Russia, not that it outweighed the revolutionary opportunity in western Europe.
Wrecker shit. You went beyond disagreement into misunderstanding, either deliberate, or deliberately refusing to acknowledge.
I suggest walking away, touching grass, and ideally joining an org if you aren’t already a part of one. All 3 would be immensely beneficial, I believe.