• ramble81@lemmy.zip
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    12 hours ago

    Are there any games that level bosses based on your level? So it wouldn’t matter if you’re level 1 or 99, the first boss would always be X+1 levels above you, and something like a later boss would be X+20 levels above you. So even if you grind to hell it just makes them a challenge no matter what.

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      9 hours ago

      I hate it when they do this bs to regular enemies. I might be a god walking amongts men but still have to struggle to kill a single malnourished bandit? Bs

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      10 hours ago

      I think there are a few schools of thought towards this type of thing. Me personally, I would want a challenge despite my due diligence and I’m often the person disappointed when I nuke a boss.

      However, you will have people that intentionally do the extra stuff so that they are op. Those individuals would hate that if they spent a lot of time doing this and the boss isn’t a breeze they would feel as if their time was wasted doing that content.

      A game that comes to mind that recieved a lot of flak for that kind of scaling was last epoch. Every boss gets a shield as you lower their health and it makes having powerful gear, especially in lower areas, feel like less of a boon.

      Personally, I think the answer is to move away from pure stats being the indicator of difficulty. Just bumping up health based on level would make a boss feel insane if you dumped most of your levels into less combat oriented stats in the games that have them. So you would feel weak despite being “high level”. The answer to it is having mechanics of a fight be challenging despite your level. If you mess up or ignore a mechanic, you are punished. However, if you’re strong enough you can afford to make those mistakes more often while the fight isn’t just a push over.

      This, of course, requires way more effort and actual game design with fun combat so that the game doesnt make bosses feel like a chore or just gimmicks. The easy answer is to just buff stats, which is why most games just make enemies a sponge in high difficulty.

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        10 hours ago

        They did, but it incentivized you to not level up at all. Higher level magic was more significant at lower levels, especially if you junction it to your attributes so if you kept your level low, you’d have insanely high numbers for your level. Thousands of HP at level 10 or so? You’re unkillable.