• QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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    You are a loser. You don’t view us as independent people who have our own views on our country. You ignore the fact that even western outlets report over 80% of us support the government. But none of that matters to you because we’re just peasants brainwashed by the evil “authoritarians”.

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        QinShiHuangsShlong was clearly explaining how you are utterly mistaken about China. When Chinese tell you that public ownership is principle (ie controls the commanding heights), that the working classes run the state, and an overwhelming number support the CPC, your response is that it’s “stating the obvious” to say otherwise. This stems from a sheer distrust of the words of Chinese people, and is why your comment is chauvanist.

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          They said I dont see Chinese people as people instead of focusing on the ‘stating the obvious’ part. They literally came up with something I never said to support their point.

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            When you’re denying China’s system as socialist, despite what Chinese say and the reasons they give, it points to a distrust of Chinese people themselves.

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              6 hours ago

              That makes not sense at all, people in China are diverse and numerous with many different opinions and experiences. Don’t just band them together as if they are all the same.

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                I didn’t, I simply stated that the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their socialist system and consider it as such. Against them, you claim that private ownership is somehow principle despite being relegated to secondary industries and medium/small firms, and claim that the bourgeoisie are in charge of the state despite evidence to the contrary.

                On what basis do you believe what you do?

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                  Dont move the goal post. You are trying to prove my comment somehow dehumanizes the entirety of the Chinese population, how does that make sense? When did I say or treat the WHOLE chinese population as less than human with my words?

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                    I’m not moving the goal posts, I’m explaining why your comments are seen as dehumanizing and chauvanist. It’s tied directly to your distrust of statistics coming from China and your distrust of China’s system being what it actually is. If you can give credible evidence supporting your views, then you can clear your name, if you’re just going to say “it’s obvious” then it’s clear that you don’t actually have such evidence, and that it’s likely pure chauvanism.

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        You are defending and agreeing with someone calling China evil and authoritarian capitalist. He is wrong and so are you. No amount of dodging or hiding behind semantics will change the position you chose to defend and that you clearly chose to defend it for chauvinist reasons.

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          You said I didnt see Chinese people as people, which I never said ever. Are you gonna retract that? Cause you are still wrong.

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            No because even if you don’t state it openly it’s clearly apparent. You clearly hate China, and we’re all just brainwashed serfs of the ebil gubberment.

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              Ah okay, so the fabrications of your mind and you prejudice against me are relevant and valid points for you to criticize me. The irony of your comment isnt lost on me

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                The “fabrications” of you siding with someone calling China evil. China is directed by the people. Reconcile how you don’t hate Chinese people for me.