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Yeah, he, and everyone else connected with Epstein, are monsters and should hang.
These crimes are horrendous, but I’m guessing you haven’t really thought about the implications of the death penalty very deeply, and in particular in relation to crimes of CSA. For one thing, it’s a sure fire way to end up with a lot more dead kids.
Yeah, I have. My family includes criminal defense attorneys who are staunch opponents of the death penalty.
And I am in most cases - with the exception being cases like this, or war crimes, where the very powerful are inflicting massive harm with confidence they will get away with it. That is when it is useful, as something even the powerful must fear. China’s execution of bankers follows this.
Ok so you’re not talking about CSA in general;, in fact you’re not talking about any crime in particular, but rather the power possessed by those who perpetrate them?
How would this work? Is torture ok? How do you determine who is powerful enough? How do you prevent uncertainty and/or other powerful interests hijacking the justice system?
You know what’s easier and remains in line with fundamental values of liberal justice systems? Just no death penalty. Start by actually enforcing laws against the powerful, with penniless and impotent lifetimes spent in prison. Avoid creating martyrs and endless cycles of violence and retribution.
And in the case of CSA, again, avoid creating piles of dead kids. If all of these criminals thought they were facing the death penalty the crimes and corruption would just get worse, to absolutely no benefit to us other than satisfying emotional blood lust.
The fact that those laws aren’t enforced against the powerful is exactly the “liberal” justice system - the best justice one can buy, and if you can’t afford it, you get none. That’s exactly the problem. It is hijacked now, by design. And why there does need to be a threat specifically against the powerful.
This is just a Louis CK bit of ‘at least you get the kid back’.
And no, I’m not calling for the death penalty in general for CSA.
I don’t think you understood what I meant when I referred to liberal justice systems, because you can’t conceive of any understanding of the word liberal unless it’s in a portmanteau with the word retard.
The many demonstrable downsides of the death penalty (and lack of any evidenced differential benefits) goes well beyond Louis CK. Congratulations, you just discovered that comedians rehash ancient and serious political and philosophical discussions for laypersons. But you may wish to read the original material.
Yeah, like I said, I grew up with this subject, so you can save the condescending bullshit. It’s pathetic. Apparently you can’t conceive that others can actually disagree with someone as amazing as you, and you alone, find your intellect to be.