• Wren@lemmy.today
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    9 hours ago

    Finally. I tried piefed for all of a few days. It was some kinda highschool level passive aggressive hand-holding circlejerk. The software equivalent of some hot jackass in the lunchroom pointing at a group of kids, saying “We don’t talk to them, and you won’t either if you wanna hang with us.

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      9 hours ago

      Piefed literally sees what lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works else sees on the fediverse.

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        8 hours ago

        I support the right of every instance on Lemmy to build how they want, transparently. As you can see my main account is on .today and not .world or sh.itjust.works.

        But no, not literally. From https://join.piefed.social/features/ - this is the main site for piefed, not just .social:

        Authoritarian Inoculation – Feature to reduce the impact of authoritarian propaganda.

        I have some real concerns about what’s considered authoritarian, considering…

        Default Blocks – Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and Nazi instances are blocked out of the box.

        A call back to my lunchroom analogy.

        Low Reputation Indicator – Identifies consistently downvoted users.

        Oof. That’s some social credit sounding shit right there.

        4chan Filter – Flags content from 4chan for review.

        I wonder how it does that? I hope that’s not just a hokey word filter.

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          I support the right of every instance on Lemmy to build how they want, transparently. As you can see my main account is on .today and not .world or sh.itjust.works.

          My point here is that piefed.social has pretty simular culture to lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works.

          I have some real concerns about what’s considered authoritarian, considering…

          Oof. That’s some social credit sounding shit right there.

          Its much simpler than that. Lemmy has a spam problem. People coming in to just make shill communities selling a service or product or spamming advert posts across communities.

          They usually get downvoted, but I can use Piefeds admin tools to filter for downvoted posts by new accounts. This usually catches most spammers like that. I can then ban them from piefed.social and pass that on to Lemmy admins.

          A lot of Day 1 trolls are caught like this too.

          I understand, not always, but most heavily downvoted accounts tend to be people looking for fights everywhere, people with long community and instance banlists etc.

          4chan Filter – Flags content from 4chan for review.

          This can be turned off by other instances.

          And there seems to be some confusion in some of the excerpts there because it is mostly referring to what piefed.social does, and not incumbent on all other instances to do so. It also looks unfinished.

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            My point here is that piefed.social has pretty simular culture to lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works.

            So not “literally.” That’s the point I argued with.

            Lemmy has a spam problem. People coming in to just make shill communities selling a service or product or spamming advert posts across communities.

            I browse by subscribed. I support the right for everyone to choose what they see with minimal persuasion. I don’t see this problem, if it exists.

            I understand, not always, but most heavily downvoted accounts tend to be people looking for fights everywhere, people with long community and instance banlists etc.

            I can make my own decisions about people without a flag next to their name. I vehemently oppose this feature.

            This can be turned off by other instances.

            My lunchroom analogy applies here. Users should be able to make their own minds.

            And there seems to be some confusion in some of the excerpts there because it is mostly referring to what piefed.social does, and not incumbent on all other instances to do so. It also looks unfinished.

            As I just said: this is the main site for piefed, not just .social:

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              So not “literally.” That’s the point I argued with.

              I don’t see how it’s inherently some sort of hugbox, as you claim.

              I browse by subscribed. I support the right for everyone to choose what they see with minimal persuasion. I don’t see this problem, if it exists.

              Good for you. But I am thinking at an instance level. Spam is actually a problem on platforms like this.

              If Lemmy was to triple in size tomorrow, it’s base tools wouldn’t be capable of dealing with it.

              I can make my own decisions about people without a flag next to their name. I vehemently oppose this feature.

              I just meant purely in terms of admins being able to see it. Whether or not it shows for users is another matter.

              As I just said: this is the main site for piefed, not just .social:

              Yes, I know. But it’s not clear that all of the content there is meant to be specifically telling other owners how they should run their instance.