This is not about Elon Musk or Tesla. The Chinese government has heavily subsidized EVs and related industries. They have to. Their dependence on oil is their greatest strategic weakness.
The US has backed off EV subsidies and continues to subsidize oil. See US actions in Venezuela.
So here’s the thing. Elon is an idiot. He wants you to desperately believe he is a genius while also holding true that he plays games 10 hours a day, tweets 2 hours a day, all which he prioritizes over for his 14 kids. That’s several punchlines worth of “You know you’re a redneck when” material in one sentence of his public behavior. Articles like this are beautiful. But his stupidity should not be a surprise here, more of an expectation. (And a hilarious one at that)
Rednecks were originally the coal miners in Virginia who fought the oligarchs in the battle of Blair Mountain. They wore red neckerchiefs to identify themselves. As with most leftist icons, decades of psyops have perverted the term.
All that to say, it is insulting to rednecks to compare Elon to them.
Completely agree. To be clear, I very much respect Rednecks. I do not respect Elon. He is a genuinely worse person than the most exagerated and derogatory punchlines of those jokes.
I love that his supposed IQ is 165 yet I have never seen him say or do anything remotely intelligent. I’m sure he paid someone to take the test for him just like he paid someone to play his video games for him. The only thing Elon is good at is spending money. Especially American tax payer’s money.
tweets 2 hours a day
Edit: I want to clarify that I think 2 hours a major underestimate.
Here’s the basic Google search 100% proving this is fact because his tweets are public and easily countable:
https://www.statswithsasa.com/2024/09/18/elon-musk-definitely-tweets-too-much/
it took fewer than 50 days for Elon Musk to post ~3,200 tweets
Elon is averaging 67.8 tweets/day, and there have been weekdays (read: workdays) where he has tweeted over 150 times in one day.
Yes, that’s right. Using my method, I estimate that Elon spends ~2.7 hours per day on Twitter… there have been workdays where Elon Musk has spent over 5 hours on Twitter in a single day.
I even rounded that number down to make it easier to swallow. You want to say you’re choking on doubt, when you clearly just forgot how to swallow truth.
TBF BYD is being sold all around the world and tesla is mostly american and maybe sells a bit in europe
Byd already sells vehicles in the United States. California has a byd bus plant. The govt doesn’t hate byd they just don’t want average consumers to have any
Tesla is a zombie company, it’s already dead, and it will never come back. It will be bankrupt in 2 years.
I give it 10. But yes. I agree.
Tesla sales declined in 2024 and 2025. The decline in 2024 was small, but the decline in 2025 was almost 10% YoY.
“Have you seen their car?”
I’ve never sat in a tesla that didnt have an annoying plastic creak. Either when going over the road, or if you dare rest your arm on the door.
…and Tesla’s stock price would hit record highs!
The average American truly doesn’t know just how much their entire market is already artificially forced to keep out better options simply because they aren’t American or aligned with American gov interests.
The result is we get objectively shittier stuff than the rest of the world. Huawei being banned in the US is a perfect example of this. The gov claims they ban this shit to stop Chinese infiltration, but the reality is its to eliminate competition for American and American aligned billionaires.
Huawei’s sin was making too good cellphone. I owned one right before US decided to ban Google Android from it. It was awesome phone.
It’s not just that they don’t know. They’re willfully ignorant. People have some kind of consumer brainrot. I was talking to someone last week about how it’d be better to keep their older perfectly functional tools because the newer ones have been getting enshittified for decades. His only answer was like “well I can just replace them in if they break” which didn’t even address what I was talking about really.
“But it got electrolytes. That’s what plants crave”
It’s not just that they don’t know. They’re willfully ignorant. People have some kind of consumer brainrot.
The same media is sent to all people in the west. The US is just some years ahead.
A bit of column a, bit of column b. Ban Huawei, but Cisco is made in China too so the data risk is still there.
Then blame TP-Link, right?
Huawei is a bad example of a good point. Huawei working on anything related to US infrastructure would be a disaster. Consumer goods maybe not so bad but that whole thing started because of B2B
A disaster for whom?
It’s bit of both. I still wouldn’t trust Chinese tech. Huawei tech is involved in surveiling the African Union headquarters.. This not to minimise US’ own corruption and digital imperialism, although I think the EU is in the right step to use open source software to replace American tech.
I would trust China before Elon fucking Musk.
Just because US is going on temper tantrum it doesn’t mean people have to forget that China is doing its own Orwellian surveillance.
An acceptable price for living under a government that actually controls its capitalist billionaires rather than being controlled by them.
And it’s not like China’s surveillance is any more Orwellian than the West’s. They just do it more openly.
It’s pretty bad everywhere but people don’t realize the level of surveillance in China is on a whole other fucking level.
All tech is used as such. You think Apple and Microsoft and Android aren’t selling your data to the government? Hmmm…
Amazon literally allows police and ICE access to your Ring camera and Alexa recordings at will. They don’t even have to make a request, Amazon built an app so they can have access to any of it immediately.
That’s what I said basically. US is doing its own digital imperialism. The difference is that the US government outsourced the Orwellian surveillance to techbros.
I just learned headlight technology in new European cars is insane. Literally selectively blocks out light to incoming cars. So you can see the road at night and not blind people.
It’s not an European exclusive, I once rented a Mazda CX30 that did that
It’s not something that’s been allowed in the US until very recently. Auto on/off high beams have been a thing for decades, but the selective dimming/“tunneling” only just recently became legal within the past couple of years in the US.
My 2015MY has that as an option. It’s slick. I didn’t know it was available when I bought used but it’s a (€2500) DIY retrofit.
They keep out other options so that they can support American businesses that don’t exploit cheap/slave labor.
Dude. The majority of “made in america” is prison labour
LOL gonna need a source for that one buddy
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I have all types of devices I can use to type into a search engine. They don’t make information instantly appear in front of me.
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This does not say “the majority of ‘made in America’ prison labor” or anything similar.
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Fuck FElon.
He got checkmated.
Hadn’t begun the spiral into ket, it appears. Aw.
He was born in a spiral. He tried to rename PayPal “x” then tried to name several children “x” until he finally found a place that would allow it.
Those were the days, when Musk still had a “will they, won’t they” relationship with being a total piece of shit. Then it turns out they were together all along.
I feel like this should be the plot for some Chuck Tingle erotica.
Mulon Esk is a complete idiot.
Yup. He cosplays a smart man. By buying smart ideas and pretending they are his. And then wrecking them. He’s as smart a man as trump is a good business man.
Same energy.
All the Chinese EV OEMs got a huge uplift after Elon was dumb enough to open a factory there…
They stole the ideas we stole!
No one stole anything. Chinese battery tech is a decade ahead of anyone.
But it’s true. The standard Chinese model is to steal all IP, from all tech that they do not yet control. They use cheap labor to import all manufacturing from developed countries. Then, they steal the IP and turn around and make it theirs. That’s how they’ve caught up so fast from a closed out isolated farming hermit for decades, into a modern powerhouse that wants to take over the world.
IP is a bullshit concept that slows down the progress of humanity. They take what is learned and improve on it then sell that because why the fuck wouldn’t you. The only people who have a problem with this are moronic capitalists that say “grrr how dare you improve my technology before I earn my money from it! It’s my idea! I own it forever”.
There is maybe some debate about a small reasonable period to allow someone to recoup r&d costs. On the other hand we can look to an example like during Covid: American pharma companies were not sharing research about mRNA vaccines with each other or the world in the hopes of being “the first” and the financial gains that would come with this. Accelerating this process through collaborative effort would’ve literally saved tens of thousands of lives. This was often defended by Americans who are so indoctrinated they couldn’t possibly conceptualize a world without this approach. “Of course Pfizer needs the IP? How else will they make their money??”
We excuse it because most of the time it doesn’t really matter. A slightly better phone or laptop or whatever is not a huge deal. But then you see things like the Covid example and start to wonder: if that broke down and everything was basically “open source” how much further along would we be?
The american companies are ok with it because of capitalism. The executive team gets a generous salary, bonus. Or they believe that they are ok with giving away decades worth of engineering research and development for cheap labor, and that at the arms race American engineering will always be one step ahead, so they will never lose market share.
They reaffirmed Musk that he’s the King, but in the long game, they already have the Queen.
I was joking, but yes China has perfected and created even better technologies.
Crazy that he sounds like a normal human here
