I’m not sure we’re on the same page. I’m not claiming she needed to move further left, I’m saying that using words to court the middle rather than policy doesn’t excite anyone and doesn’t get them to come out and vote. So doing talk show rounds, getting endorsements, etc at best move opinion polls but don’t impact votes and at worst only appeals to politicos who were already going to vote for her while turning off others
using words to court the middle rather than policy.
Not sure what this means, since words are what you have when running for office. It’s not like she was president before (unlike the other guy, who we did have policy to look at, and still that wasn’t enough).
No, you have policy proposals which she came in with very few (maternity leave, child tax credit, and removing the filibuster were the big ones) that addressed the economic security that the middle loves. She instead focused on culture wars, pointing the finger at Republicans in the Senate, and refusing to distance herself from Biden. Nothing in her proposals was exciting for the middle class and while her platitudes played well in opinion polls, 6.2 million less people came out to vote for her compared to 4 years prior. That’s a lack of excitement - people viewed her as more of the same rather than something new and promising
They carefully calculated those public policy proposals based on polling. But again, they’re basing all that on what it looks like their voting base wants. But the dem voting base is all over the place.
Do you think they looked at all the best demographics and polling they could get and said ‘nah, let’s go a different way lol’?
The issue here is you want something very different from non-rightist B, who wants something very different from (and maybe diametrically opposed to) non-rightist C, and so on. And I’m not saying ‘dem’ or ‘leftist’ here because those terms piss off someone on your own side.
There was no way to make any of that work, and thinking there was, that it was their strategy or the candidate, misses the point. ANY non right candidate will lose again if this issue isn’t understood.
I’m not sure we’re on the same page. I’m not claiming she needed to move further left, I’m saying that using words to court the middle rather than policy doesn’t excite anyone and doesn’t get them to come out and vote. So doing talk show rounds, getting endorsements, etc at best move opinion polls but don’t impact votes and at worst only appeals to politicos who were already going to vote for her while turning off others
Not sure what this means, since words are what you have when running for office. It’s not like she was president before (unlike the other guy, who we did have policy to look at, and still that wasn’t enough).
No, you have policy proposals which she came in with very few (maternity leave, child tax credit, and removing the filibuster were the big ones) that addressed the economic security that the middle loves. She instead focused on culture wars, pointing the finger at Republicans in the Senate, and refusing to distance herself from Biden. Nothing in her proposals was exciting for the middle class and while her platitudes played well in opinion polls, 6.2 million less people came out to vote for her compared to 4 years prior. That’s a lack of excitement - people viewed her as more of the same rather than something new and promising
They carefully calculated those public policy proposals based on polling. But again, they’re basing all that on what it looks like their voting base wants. But the dem voting base is all over the place.
Do you think they looked at all the best demographics and polling they could get and said ‘nah, let’s go a different way lol’?
The issue here is you want something very different from non-rightist B, who wants something very different from (and maybe diametrically opposed to) non-rightist C, and so on. And I’m not saying ‘dem’ or ‘leftist’ here because those terms piss off someone on your own side.
There was no way to make any of that work, and thinking there was, that it was their strategy or the candidate, misses the point. ANY non right candidate will lose again if this issue isn’t understood.