• lps2@lemmy.ml
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      Tankies might hate Ukraine but most of the left is very supportive. My point around Cheney and Kamala campaigning together was that it only went for the middle but absent policy proposals that bring some energy, at best you get a bump in the opinion polls but don’t actually bring people to the ballot box.

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        Tankies might hate Ukraine but most of the left is very supportive.

        “Tankies” were anti-war and staunchly opposed injecting heavy weapons systems into Ukraine back when Trump was doing it in 2018. Liberals ignored Trump’s repeated efforts to stoke tensions between Ukraine and Russia, because it didn’t fit the “Trump Cheeto Suck Putin Dick” narrative they’d fed themselves. Neoconservatives were the most supportive of the Ukraine conflict, because those fuckers never saw a war they couldn’t jill off to. And the apex of this insanity was outed genocidal fascist Yaroslav Hunka getting a standing ovation in Canadian Parliament.

        The neocons were so bullish on their war that they openly cavorted with the last living Nazis in order to sell it.

        My point around Cheney and Kamala campaigning together was that it only went for the middle

        There was no “moderate” voter who supported Kamala after Liz Cheney (a woman who couldn’t hold her seat in the safest Republican state in the country) endorsed her. What Liz Cheney offered Kamala was money from the Oil & Gas industry. She was a nine-figure bribe to abandon climate change policy. If Liz changed anyone’s vote, it likely cost Kamala winnable swing states.

        Nobody liked this bitch.

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        The fact that she is a black woman didn’t help out either with the left or right flank of the party I still think Biden would have beaten Trump a second time.

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          The tankies on .ml aren’t proof that the far left is like the far right.

          They’re proof that being in the same space on the authoritarianism axis causes overlap between otherwise disparate oppression enjoyers.