Its like its your job to simply not comprehend how politics work. Democrats have spent the past two decades making the case for why they aren’t worth electing.
Your cheerleading doesn’t change that, and “Trump bad” doesn’t change that. Cheerleading harder or being mad at people for not cheerleading doesn’t change minds.
Its not the people who need to change, its Democrats. They’re a failure of a party, and their failure to do anything meaningful with power when the actually have it prevents them from getting into power.
You keep trying to brow beat voters into voting for Democrats who haven’t showed up for them in decades, instead of focusing criticism on Democrats to get Democrats to be different, and you’ll lose the election for us a third time.
Good. The need to be negged. Negging Democrats is what we should be doing, because they deserve it, and if they think they’ve just got the votes of the base, they’ll continue to make losing decisions.
The most important thing right now is for Democrats to understand they don’t have the support of their base: because they dont’. And if they go into another cycle pretending they do, they’ll fucking blow it again.
When are people going to understand that “you’re doing it wrong” is not actionable advice on its own. If you want people to change their behavior, tell them what to do, not why what they’re currently doing doesn’t matter. Any sense of moral superiority you find by correcting people is immediately made null and void by the simple fact that you’re not actually doing anything; at least they’re acting on their feelings, even if they are (supposedly) misguided.
I don’t think you’re wrong about the Democrats; they’ve shown themselves to be unreliable time and time again, and trusting in them to do anything for us at this point is foolish. But you will convince no one of that by just telling people that they’re wrong; all you’ll do is demoralize them further and make sure nothing at all gets done. If you don’t want people voting Democrat, tell them who to vote for instead. If you think voting is pointless, tell folks where else to direct their energies. Hand out links, spread information you find useful, do something constructive to further your point. As it is, you are literally no different from the bots and foreign agents that infiltrate our social media to spread disharmony and despair.
I’m not wringing my hands about anything. I am telling you, definitively and unequivocally, that you are saying nothing of value if you don’t attach a call to action to your criticism. Criticise all you want, but then tell people to do something about it. I literally don’t know what you want me to do about the situation because you haven’t said anything except that it sucks. Stop telling me what isn’t constructive and start telling me what is.
Tell. People. What. You. Want. Them. To. Do. Goddammit.
You can’t keep lying to an electorate and expect them to continue to show up.
The Democrats are the only party that can stop this, and until the party shows up for the people of this country, not the other way around, nothing changes.
If you are doing anything other than advocating for Democratic leadership to change, for the Democrats to abandon their pro corporate strategy whole cloth, you are an enemy to progress.
Democrats, as a party, polled lower than DJT in 2025. Abusing voters by telling them they need to vote for a feckless party that is constantly working against them is litterally pushing voters away from the party. Stop.
The only path forward is to focus critical on Democratic leadership. EVERYTHING else supports fascists.
If you are doing anything other than advocating for Democratic leadership to change, for the Democrats to abandon their pro corporate strategy whole cloth
This is the first time I’ve heard you even get close to something representing a call to action. Give me more of this. How do I advocate for change? Who do I speak to, and how do I amplify that message? Get specific. Stop intentionally mischaracterizing my comments as “handwringing” (how am I handwringing?? I’m not even disagreeing with you, I’m just criticizing your method of communication for being demoralizing and ineffective) and actually give people something to do. It’s all well and good to tell me to “stop because you’re doing real damage,” but the next step is to tell me what to do instead.
I know you don’t give a shit, that’s why you’ve done nothing but make faltering attacks at arguments I never made and attempt to equate me as a person to the failings of our political system. You don’t want anyone to do anything about anything; demoralization was the point all along. I can only hope someone eventually comes along and takes a serious look at this argument, and decides to actually do something with their feelings rather than spew their negativity all over everyone else. Or, knock on wood, that you one day grow up and revisit this thread with the genuine desire to do something constructive with your time.
A huge chunk of them cosponsor an impeachment of a particularly problematic official. They’re making the case right now
Its like its your job to simply not comprehend how politics work. Democrats have spent the past two decades making the case for why they aren’t worth electing.
Your cheerleading doesn’t change that, and “Trump bad” doesn’t change that. Cheerleading harder or being mad at people for not cheerleading doesn’t change minds.
Its not the people who need to change, its Democrats. They’re a failure of a party, and their failure to do anything meaningful with power when the actually have it prevents them from getting into power.
This is just negging.
Exactly want Putin would say
You keep trying to brow beat voters into voting for Democrats who haven’t showed up for them in decades, instead of focusing criticism on Democrats to get Democrats to be different, and you’ll lose the election for us a third time.
More negging
You the one throwing the election to fascists kid
Still more negging
Good. The need to be negged. Negging Democrats is what we should be doing, because they deserve it, and if they think they’ve just got the votes of the base, they’ll continue to make losing decisions.
The most important thing right now is for Democrats to understand they don’t have the support of their base: because they dont’. And if they go into another cycle pretending they do, they’ll fucking blow it again.
When are people going to understand that “you’re doing it wrong” is not actionable advice on its own. If you want people to change their behavior, tell them what to do, not why what they’re currently doing doesn’t matter. Any sense of moral superiority you find by correcting people is immediately made null and void by the simple fact that you’re not actually doing anything; at least they’re acting on their feelings, even if they are (supposedly) misguided.
I don’t think you’re wrong about the Democrats; they’ve shown themselves to be unreliable time and time again, and trusting in them to do anything for us at this point is foolish. But you will convince no one of that by just telling people that they’re wrong; all you’ll do is demoralize them further and make sure nothing at all gets done. If you don’t want people voting Democrat, tell them who to vote for instead. If you think voting is pointless, tell folks where else to direct their energies. Hand out links, spread information you find useful, do something constructive to further your point. As it is, you are literally no different from the bots and foreign agents that infiltrate our social media to spread disharmony and despair.
You are cynically wringing your hands about putting criticism where it is owed.
What isn’t constructive is the cheer-leading. What isn’t constructive is brow-bashing voters.
It handed two elections to the fascists. Stop it. You are doing real damage.
I’m not wringing my hands about anything. I am telling you, definitively and unequivocally, that you are saying nothing of value if you don’t attach a call to action to your criticism. Criticise all you want, but then tell people to do something about it. I literally don’t know what you want me to do about the situation because you haven’t said anything except that it sucks. Stop telling me what isn’t constructive and start telling me what is.
Tell. People. What. You. Want. Them. To. Do. Goddammit.
You are unequivocally handwringing.
You can’t keep lying to an electorate and expect them to continue to show up.
The Democrats are the only party that can stop this, and until the party shows up for the people of this country, not the other way around, nothing changes.
If you are doing anything other than advocating for Democratic leadership to change, for the Democrats to abandon their pro corporate strategy whole cloth, you are an enemy to progress.
Democrats, as a party, polled lower than DJT in 2025. Abusing voters by telling them they need to vote for a feckless party that is constantly working against them is litterally pushing voters away from the party. Stop.
The only path forward is to focus critical on Democratic leadership. EVERYTHING else supports fascists.
This is the first time I’ve heard you even get close to something representing a call to action. Give me more of this. How do I advocate for change? Who do I speak to, and how do I amplify that message? Get specific. Stop intentionally mischaracterizing my comments as “handwringing” (how am I handwringing?? I’m not even disagreeing with you, I’m just criticizing your method of communication for being demoralizing and ineffective) and actually give people something to do. It’s all well and good to tell me to “stop because you’re doing real damage,” but the next step is to tell me what to do instead.
I don’t really give a shit what you think is a good way of communicating. Everything you’ve shown here: Its why Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024.
I know you don’t give a shit, that’s why you’ve done nothing but make faltering attacks at arguments I never made and attempt to equate me as a person to the failings of our political system. You don’t want anyone to do anything about anything; demoralization was the point all along. I can only hope someone eventually comes along and takes a serious look at this argument, and decides to actually do something with their feelings rather than spew their negativity all over everyone else. Or, knock on wood, that you one day grow up and revisit this thread with the genuine desire to do something constructive with your time.
Either way, good luck.