• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    There is no vagueness in my definition. You keep talking about trade deals as if those deals was imposed using military force or economical and diplomatical pressures . There is no extension of one country power within another just because one side benefits more one side.

    My defintion is a genocide non vague definition. Your definition is just one type of imperialist. Just like not all socialist mouvements are maxist leninists

    My definition is not like saying plants are trees. My definition is like saying there is the concept of animal and the concept of animals include dogs and cats. You can’t say that animals is a vague concept

    • You’ve redefined the definition (multiple times while saying you stand by the original one, but let’s not talk about that). The original one did not include anything about economic pressures, nor diplomatic.

      Any diplomacy that extends a country’s power and influence is imperialism by your original definition. There wasn’t any qualifiers such as pressure.

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      Trade deals have diplomatic and economic influence. There’s no such thing as 100% power - 0% power, even in imperialist relationships. It isn’t simply “either/or” in those terms. Your definition is vague to the point of obfuscating how and why imperialism functions, and you’re using it as evidence to say the soviets supporting a liberation movement was “imperialism,” as though the goal was to plunder Afghanistan. This rejection of in-depth analysis is self-defeating, and gives us no understanding of how Tunisia can escape imperialism, while the definition I gave did.

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        soviets supporting a liberation movement was “imperialism,” as though the goal was to plunder Afghanistan

        That is the same rhetoric the imperialist west use. With your definition US intervention in the Korean war was not an imperials movements. If Afghan decided peacefully and with no foreign intervention do you really believe the USSR would have not intervened ? and by intervening I don’t necessary mean military

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          The US Empire is actively plundering the ROK, and uses it as a millitary base. Intervention is not imperialism, but a method that can be used for it.