I’m just as much a socialist as you, but all of my positions conveniently line up with the US State Department’s and the only through line is violently enforcing white supremacy. Stand back while I use the word “tankie”
I’d honestly respect people more if they just admitted to being social democrats or liberals instead of trying to be this halfway house thing of socialism/communism with liberal democratic characteristics. Very common here on Lemmy.
As far as I can tell, the tankies are the ones whose ideas line up most closely with real world communist organisations. I can’t think of any serious communist parties that are anti-China, anti-USSR, pro-NATO, and so on.
It’s Baby’s First Thought Terminating Cliche. I can’t hear it without remembering that perennial tweet about someone’s grandfather being the most steadfast anticommunist they know because he’s illiterate and communist propaganda could never reach him.
MLM/Maoist parties like the Naxalites tend to be anti-China and still “serious” in that they wage protracted people’s war, organize in real life, etc, but they are generally pro-USSR (Stalin era) and anti-NATO. I disagree with them theoretically but I will acknowledge that some of them have seen some degree of success when the material conditions of the countries they operate in are more agrarian (and as a result have more similarities with China’s revolution, the closer they are the greater the degree of success).
ML parties generally agree with what you said, ie pro-USSR, pro-PRC, anti-NATO.
I’m just as much a socialist as you, but all of my positions conveniently line up with the US State Department’s and the only through line is violently enforcing white supremacy. Stand back while I use the word “tankie”
I’d honestly respect people more if they just admitted to being social democrats or liberals instead of trying to be this halfway house thing of socialism/communism with liberal democratic characteristics. Very common here on Lemmy.
As far as I can tell, the tankies are the ones whose ideas line up most closely with real world communist organisations. I can’t think of any serious communist parties that are anti-China, anti-USSR, pro-NATO, and so on.
It’s Baby’s First Thought Terminating Cliche. I can’t hear it without remembering that perennial tweet about someone’s grandfather being the most steadfast anticommunist they know because he’s illiterate and communist propaganda could never reach him.
MLM/Maoist parties like the Naxalites tend to be anti-China and still “serious” in that they wage protracted people’s war, organize in real life, etc, but they are generally pro-USSR (Stalin era) and anti-NATO. I disagree with them theoretically but I will acknowledge that some of them have seen some degree of success when the material conditions of the countries they operate in are more agrarian (and as a result have more similarities with China’s revolution, the closer they are the greater the degree of success).
ML parties generally agree with what you said, ie pro-USSR, pro-PRC, anti-NATO.
“I’m a socialist, that’s why I believe in milquetoast reformism for western capitalist nations but for radical regime change in socialist China”