“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said adding that “if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries”
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.
“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said. “If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed.”
Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment’s due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.
Due process protections are still mostly in place, which is why he’s still there and able to file a lawsuit. Without them, as Miller seems to be advocating, they might have simply decided his ID was fake and deported him.
They’re doing that now and have been doing it…
The reason there’s an article about that guy, is because they didn’t just disappear him.
The fact that it doesn’t happen 100%, doesn’t mean it happens 0%.
That’s basic logic
He seems to be advocating no due process for people that entered with no due process, not no due process for everyone…
Without due process, he could just accuse anyone of having entered illegally and deny them any chance to prove otherwise, including checking their documentation
And how does one determine whether someone entered with due process?
Due process is a right that is either offered to all or none. There is no in-between.
… they check the person’s name/identity/documents… that’s how you know if the person is legal or not…
That’s called a part of due process, you dizzy fuck
Who checks? A judge? Krisi Noem?
You’re not getting this.
Are you saying people are being deported without getting their identity checked?
Yes
Absolutely.
Tangentially related is the story of Mahmoud Khalil, who was here completely legally on a green card. He wasn’t quite deported, but he was put through hell despite doing nothing wrong.
Listening to this would do you good.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/876/bigger-than-me
Edit: The first part is about soccer and can be skipped, though it is entertaining.
There are citizens that have come to the United States legally that are being deported without due process. Yes that is happening.
Who checks?
Who makes sure the person checking doesn’t have a reason to lie about the person’s legal status?
How many people are checking?
What steps should be given if someone isn’t able to provide paper work within 2 micro seconds of an ice agent looking at you?
What about the overwhelming majority of people that took legal steps to move to the US (as in actually following due process unlike the made up lies would indicate) but something out of their control happens like Trump decides he doesn’t like the country they came from
Or they are actively on their way to getting full citizenship but ice abducts them anyway?
My god how are people this stupid.
This statement is coming from a man who has overseen the deportation of countless documented immigrants and even citizens. It would be incredibly naive to trust DHS to oversee this with no oversight even without that context. But with it, this is full on delusional. Seriously, how do people end up like this? I don’t get it. The average grade school student could see this is a bad idea but even after having it explained multiple ways you still can’t grasp basic concepts of how government works.