The effort to bring federal charges has been met with resistance by some career prosecutors who argue the crime doesn’t appear to fall under any federal statutes.
Three months after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Justice Department is weighing how to bring federal charges against the shooter, including under a novel legal theory that it was an anti-Christian hate crime, according to three people familiar with the investigation.
The suspect, Tyler Robinson, is already facing multiple state charges, including an aggravated murder count, and Utah prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty. Robinson’s partner is trans, and authorities have produced text messages from the suspect to his partner saying he was motivated to kill Kirk because he had “enough of his hatred.”
It’s not uncommon for defendants to face both state and federal charges, including for drug-related crimes and domestic terrorist attacks, among other offenses. But the effort to bring federal charges in the Kirk case has been met with resistance by some career prosecutors who have argued that the crime doesn’t appear to fall under any federal statutes, the three people said.
Are they unaware that Mormonism is a form of Christianity?
The supposed shooter was themselves, a Christian.
I mean history is full of different sects of a religion going to war with each other (or at least hating each other).
Yep, and the exact reason the Founders were such sticklers on a seperation between church and state… on a secular society…
…was that the US was more or less initially settled by a bunch of Christian religious extremists of varying flavors, who all couldn’t hack it in Europe, and they knew that if you let the government start explicitly picking favorites with religions?
Well, then US history would look a lot more like (what was to them, fairly recent) European history.
Aka, a whole bunch of mostly Christians killing mostly other different Christians, with an occasional, quite notable pogrom against Jews, or crusade against Muslims.
… As we can currently see… they evidently did not establish this paradigm strongly enough to withstand just a few centuries of persistent and dogged US Christian Extremeism.
I guess at this point I’m just waiting for Utah to claim its own Greater Deseret boundaries and assert its own independence, maybe when the US is embroiled in just another actual, full fledged land war with Mexico.
Give it about a decade, I’d guess.
A lot of Christians don’t think Mormons are Christian. They are of course, but many don’t think so.
Someone told me the other day that Catholics weren’t Christians. I’m like… They are the og Christians.
The person refused to believe me.
Oh yeah you hear the wildest shit from protestants growing up catholic
Were they Baptists? I know plenty of Protestants, most especially Baptists, that will definitely be quite vocal about their belief that Catholics are not “real” xtians.
Why yes. They were.
You gotta go to the Seventh Day Adventists, imo, to get some reeeeaaallll hardcore Catholic hate, good lord do they hate Catholics.
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I grew up with that nonsense. Many evangelical and charismatic Christians think that Catholics aren’t true Christians. My “non denominational” high school encouraged students to visit other churches, as long as it wasn’t Catholic, Anglican, Mormon or Jehovah’s witnesses. I guess they had a direct line to God Almighty in the principles office.
Mormons not believing in the Trinity is a pretty solid argument that, at the very least, they’re not Christians in the way nearly all other Christians are Christians.
That puts them in the same bucket as Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Unitarians, Iglesia ni Cristo, and Christadelphians.
… thats why most Christians don’t think Mormons are really Christians, that they are instead more like heretics.
Not that I personally have a dog in this fight between the finer points of varying forms of mass shared delusions based on a corpus of hundreds of different texts that have been edited and translated and added to and subtracted from, tens or hundreds of thousands of times, over approximately 2500 years…
… but the idea of the Trinity is a pretty big deal, going back through the entire history of Christianity.
Whole lots of nontrinitarians have been called, and killed for being heretics by whole lots of trinitarians, for… what, roughly… 1750 years?
Yeah that’s a pretty solid historical precedent.
Mormons call everyone else, including other xtians, “Gentiles”.
It’s amusing how all this works, since LDS members tend to think that they form the real xtianity. Hey, it’s not really any more arrogant than the Jewish heresy called xtianity (maybe more appropriately called Paulianity) that now seems to turn around and claim that the OG religion got so many things wrong, but the heretical sect has it right. But, oh yeah, they’ll use the old text and claim that is what gives the new heretical sect and its writing its legitimacy, LOL.
Hey, if it’s all just made up, who’s to say? Remember: the Nicean Creed was voted on, nearly 300 years after the character of Jesus is said to have died.
Wait, Mormons appropriated the term Gentiles, from… Jews?
That’s incredible.
I’ll be frank: Mormonism is based on the fan fiction of an easily provable, known at the time to be a serial con artist and fraudster.
… Who then went on to lead a cult of what we would now call domestic terrorists.
He specifically tried to destroy any press outlets that were critical of him.
Like, with violent armed force.
Every element of the origin story of Mormonism collapses under any serious scrutiny from anyone who isn’t a Mormon, its laughable.
He also just appropriated a bunch of Masonic poses and hand signs and such, like, verbatim, without modification in a good deal of cases, and invented rituals to go make use of them.
The uh, what is it, the papyrus he picked up off of a travelling antiquities merchant, that he then declared was “The Book of Abraham”?
He was just bullshitting around his total inability to read actual hieroglyphs… the knowledge deriving from the discovery of the Rosetta Stone was quite rare at the time, so he felt comfortable making up a nonsense ‘translation’.
Then, some decades later, actual Egyptologists get around to reading the original text and the “translation” and uh… welp, long story short, its a copy of a fairly common Egyptian funerary rites text, instructions on how to breathe properly when in the underworld. Has absolutely nothing to do with Abraham, bears no relationship to Smith’s fabricated translated story.
Mormonism is literally a fraud.
But!
That hasn’t stopped other cults and religions from… making it big time.