• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Then explain why the entire planet is capitalist and yet other countries have FAR more left leaning parties.

    The Democrat party can be moved left if liberal voters make it happen.

    EDIT: Yo downvoters, start a violent revolution or keep your fucking downvotes to yourself. Or, better yet, submit an idea, if you can, for what you think can be done. Because in reality, your options are start a violent revolution or reform the Democrat party. There are no viable 3rd parties in America and none are even trying to be viable. Use your fucking brains instead of your fingers to downvote. You are part of the problem.

    EDIT 2: Honestly, my bad guys. I didn’t notice I was in .ml. The lack of common sense makes a lot more sense now.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Depends on what you’re talking about, but usually it either means they are in the global south, or have otherwise had a longer history of working class organization or proximity to socialist countries. Not by voting.

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        Not by voting.

        Lol.

        Can you provide examples of countries with viable left leaning parties that didn’t get there by voting?

        You think working class organization is successful without voting in candidates that champion their cause?

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          23 hours ago

          USSR, PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, Nicaragua, Venezuela, etc. were all won through revolution and working class organization. Even then, my point was clearly about the necessity of organizing. It is through working class organizing that politicians and the capitalist class are threatened into giving concessions, not through passively voting for sloganeers and other charlatans.

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          Crazy how some people have very strong opinions on politics but no basic understanding of how democracy works

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              20 hours ago

              You want change: organize and vote. Lots of comments here that seem to view politics as a show, as if we were powerless against the events that unfold week after week. It’s only a show if you don’t care enough to participate.

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                Organizing is what puts actual pressure on the system, and is what won every single major working class victory. Not just wishcasting via voting. It has been through organizing that the Civil Rights Movement passed, that chattel slavery was abolished, and more.