Younger men threw their support behind Donald Trump in 2024 after favoring Biden in 2020

The United States is still not ready for a female president after more than a century of unsuccessful campaigns for the White House, according to former First Lady Michelle Obama.

“As we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain’t ready,” Obama said earlier this month in a live conversation with actor Tracee Ellis Ross that was published Friday.

“That’s why I’m like, don’t even look at me about running, because you all are lying,” she said. “You’re not ready for a woman. You are not. So don’t waste my time.”

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    7 hours ago

    I mean, she’s right.

    I don’t care if Hillary won the popular vote. That’s not how presidential elections in our country work. You can stop talking about it, because it’s a moot point.

    We’ve run a woman twice now and lost twice. This country is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic trashcan.

    Get the hint. Play the game to win.

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      I mean, she’s right.

      She’s not. She’s throwing out an easy answer to a very complex question. “Two ladies ran for President and lost? I guess ladies can’t win the presidency.”

      But you could play this game with literally any presidential campaign and be wrong.

      This country is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic trashcan.

      Obama beating Hillary in the primary in 2008 proves that our country hates women more than black people. And when he beat both McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, it allowed us to conclude our country hates Veterans and Mormons.

      Then Trump beat Hillary, proving the country hates women again (but not before Trump’s primary win proved it hates Latinos, Black People, People Still on Their First Wife, and Ohioans). Then Biden beat Trump, proving the country hates Septuagenarians. Then Trump beat Harris, proving you need to be a billionaire before you’ll be seriously considered for the White House.

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        3 hours ago

        The two female candidates who lost were WILDLY more qualified than felon rapist pedophile Donald Trump.

        If that doesn’t tell you that this country isn’t ready for a female president, then you are actively refusing to acknowledge objective reality and I can only presume you have a fetish for losing.

        Ready to gamble what’s left of our democracy?

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          The two female candidates who lost were WILDLY more qualified

          According to whom? You’re trying to apply an objective rubric to a purely subjective selection process and mistaking the job of President for job of Running For President.

          That’s long before you get into Harris’s “qualifications” as a party flak riding the coat tails of her superiors. Let’s not forget that Harris has never won a national primary. She couldn’t even win her home state the one time she put her toe in the water in '20. She was unqualified for President for the same reason Bernie Sanders and Marco Rubio and Michael Bloomberg were unqualified. Because they were losers.

          Ready to gamble what’s left of our democracy?

          I will put all my chips on a Zohran Mamdani or Rashida Talib before I bet a bent penny on the next Pete Buttigieg or Beto O’Rourke.

          We need winners, not nepo hires, running the party going forward.

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      If you want votes. You appeal to voters.

      Not people who only care about politics once every four years, to systematically go through everything you’ve done for 30 years, to see if your the right flavour of obscure political ideology.

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      This is a stupid take. Give the people a viable candidate that doesn’t thank Dick Satan Chaney for his service and cheerfully announces the desire for the “most lethal military” when the voting base is expressing discontent with the governments support for an active genocide, and she’ll win.

      People didn’t reject KH because she was a woman, they rejected her “centrist” campaign that was to the right of GWB’s on several key issues. People didn’t reject Hilary because she was a woman, they rejected her being forced on them instead of Bernie.

      And both of them had the same attitude, that voters owe them their votes, simply because they’re not Trump. People didn’t reject women, then rejected the DNC.

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        Give the people a viable candidate

        Both female candidates who lost were INSANELY more qualified than felon, rapist, pedophile Donald Trump.

        Still lost.

        Stop ignoring the reality of what America is.

        Don’t gamble with what’s left of our democracy.

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          Both female candidates who lost were INSANELY more qualified than felon, rapist, pedophile Donald Trump.

          Qualifications aren’t how presidential elections in our country are won. You can stop talking about it, because it’s a moot point.

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            You realize that no matter what you say, running a female for president is a gamble.

            You are openly admitting you are willing to gamble what’s left of our democracy at a critical juncture in American history.

            Not very bright.

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              You realize that no matter what you say, running a female for president is a gamble.

              Running anyone is a gamble, there are no guaranteed wins.

              You are openly admitting you are willing to gamble what’s left of our democracy at a critical juncture in American history.

              I said no such thing, you don’t even know my opinion. Arguing with someone in your head is certainly very bright though, no notes.

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                Running anyone is a gamble

                The fact that you believe any candidate is an equal gamble indicates you are not taking this conversation seriously.

                I can’t take someone seriously that tries to equalize all things. That is not reality and you are not living in it.

                It is less of a gamble to run a white male and you fucking know it. I could care less for your contrarianism.

                Any unnecessary gamble while literal fascists are trying to end our democracy is a fucking disgrace and anyone engaging in such a gamble is a fool.

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        You people really need to make up your mind and pick a lane. Either she didn’t win because you all protested her centrist views, or your lack of support didn’t make a difference.

        But watching you flip flop the outcome based on the discussion is getting sad.

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        You people really need to make up your mind and pick a lane. Either she didn’t win because you all protested her centrist views, or it didn’t matter because she would have lost anyway.

        But watching you flip flop the outcome based on the discussion is getting sad.