cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/52742400

How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

  • Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Weak leadership is why we are in this Trump era in the first place. Leadership comes from the Top down look at how Republicans emulate Trump.

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      12 hours ago

      And the Democratic party will only ever allow weak leadership. They complicit, and the sooner people realize it the sooner we can move on from this idiotic two party mentality.

      There are good people who have good intentions who run as Democrats, no doubt, but they either get nowhere or they capitulate and give up too much in vain hopes of changing things from within, but the shackles never get loosened.

      The Democratic party is in full swing whitewashing war criminals and normalizing boot licking and veteran warship in order to swing the Overton window to the center.

      • logi@piefed.world
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        11 hours ago

        two party mentality.

        The two parties are not a “mentality”. They’re an inescapable consequence of FPTP voting. If you pretend otherwise you will simply lose. And most likely get more fascists.

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          1 hour ago

          Stop repeating the propaganda of your two parties like it’s gospel, it only keeps them in power.

          Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats. You keep electing fascists-light because fascists-classic is too scary, but you’re still voting for fascists.

          It was Biden who full throated support for fascist Israel’s genocide against the natives they colonize, it was Biden who allowed police to attack peaceful student protestors, it was Biden’s press secretary that had police drag reporters out for asking questions, and it was Biden who spread lies and his party that continues to dehumanize Palestinians.

          It was Biden that renewed FISA, who signed a bill to block railroad strike, who bypassed Leahy law to transfer arms to Israel, who extended Trump’s Title 42, who started the TikTok divestment ban that lead to the purchase everyone is blaming Trump for now. It was under Biden than the US repeatedly vetoed a ceasefire in Gaza, the DHS waived 26 laws to build border wall segments in Texas, and the DOH prosecuted Assange.

          You don’t fight fascism with fascism.

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            Both Canada and the United Kingdom use FPTP voting and they have more than two viable parties that regularly win and hold seats.

            Sure, but they also have prime ministers and parliaments, and are generally run differently from the United States which has had two main parties since its inception because that is what the system will produce.

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        11 hours ago

        Forever relegating the party’s future is a silly move. There is no viable progressive party. It’s been a year since he was elected, there’s still no viable progressive party. The best we’ve done is some well organized protests, but it’s the information age, darlings, protests would have to grow to violent mobs before anything is achieved, and I don’t see that happening anywhere, even as fascism is abducting citizens off the streets, repelling into their apartments off helicopters.

        We don’t have years for a party to come together, identify leaders, establish roots at all levels. We are under full attack, now. If we can’t get a single violent mob together, then the next best step is to metaphorically do it to the DNC so we can at least use its infrastructure and mechanisms to get a new movement going.

        I would love to spend real, thoughtful time devising a new form for a new party, but I am not seeing how, beyond being really upset, people think that’s going to simultaneously happen while we get also get the 270 electoral votes behind a single person in just 3 short years, with enough of a charisma lead that the next Jan 6 doesn’t turn into a military coup.