• Faux@lemmy.ml
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    21 hours ago

    Two things can indeed be true. Like Russia invading Ukraine and Russia defending itself from NATO expansion in the bigger picture.

    Or like the fact that Ukrainian people are the biggest victim of this war and Ukrainian government is a Yankee proxy that caused this war.

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      19 hours ago

      Ah the NATO expansion argument.

      And yea Ukrainians are suffering, from Russia, who didn’t need to invade and genocide them.

      Ifs, buts and what about

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        10 hours ago

        Genocide lmao. Y’all need to shut the fuck up with that.

        Despite Ukraine’s best efforts, civilian casualties in this war have been remarkably low compared to other conflicts and ESPECIALLY compared to any conflict the US has been involved in so do shut up and unclutch those pearls if you’d be so kind.

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          31 minutes ago

          Civilian casualties have been low 😆y’all need to shut the fuck up with that.

          Do you think flattened villages, towns, cities in the first year had no casualties? That the massive missile and drone attacks each night yield no deaths? I mean they’re low now, almost four years in and laughably ineffective but some do get through and kill random civilians.

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            The numbers published by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights: 14,383 killed and 37,541 injured since 2022. The true numbers are probably higher, but this isn’t Gaza.