Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

  • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I seriously doubt it but I really hope this is a wake-up call for Democrats. I remain convinced that Biden voluntarily stepping down and permitting a younger more charismatic figure in his place will be all that is needed to win, and I say this for a few reasons:

    • By the polling, age is a huge issue for a significant majority of Americans, with it clearly harming Biden more.
    • Any youthful semi-in-the-shadows candidate will be fresh for Americans, who will be excited for anything different.
    • The right-wing talking-points won’t be pre-written.
    • By Biden & Democrats getting ahead of this and saying, “look we recognize the electorate’s concerns and what’s at stake and we know the people by large majorities don’t want either President, so we’re responding,” they would get major points.

    Call it a reverse-October surprise.

    That being said, this is the earliest debate ever and Trump still needs to go through sentencing in July. People won’t really remember this debate, but it certainly did not help Biden in any capacity.

    • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      We all know that Biden is a liability. BUT WHO WILL REPLACE HIM? I don’t like the man but who else in the party can take his role? Nobody credibly challenged him during the primary. Harris doesn’t poll as well as Biden and does worse. We’re stuck with him because nobody stepped up all year or last year, and everyone who wants him to step down thinks some magic TBD savior can show up out of nowhere and magically do better. Heck, Dean Phillips tried to run for president on the exact same issues and promised identical policies just in a younger person and he lost the race badly.

      We’re stuck with Biden, and likely will lose.

      • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Gretchen Whitmer

        “MAGA tried to kidnap and kill me” is a pretty good campaign narrative.

      • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        That “destroy Medicare” gaff that Trump capitalized on clowning him for is definitely gonna make the rounds. Makes Trump look sharp (honestly in the case it was fairly witty) and Biden look senile.

        I’d elect just about anyone over Trump but c’mon Biden.

      • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I’m just wondering how much impact it will really have since there are already montages of Biden’s senility going around.