Witkoff — a real estate mogul with no previous diplomatic experience — reportedly went to the meeting with Putin without a U.S. State Department notetaker.
  • yesman@lemmy.world
    7·
    10 hours ago

    Witkoff — a real estate mogul with no previous diplomatic experience — went to the meeting with Putin without a U.S. State Department notetaker

    Astonishing that someone could take on a monumental responsibility, way out of their wheelhouse, then think: Yea, I got this.Totally.

    Vibe diplomacy.

  • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    32·
    16 hours ago

    Witkoff met with Putin on Aug. 6, and a day later held a call with several European leaders detailing the plan which would see Ukraine ceding full control of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in return.

    Four U.S. and European officials speaking anonymously to Reuters said that many participants on the call were caught off guard and were “startled” at the proposal as they had different expectations of Putin’s intentions.

    The next day, on Aug. 8, Witkoff reversed his stance. According to one of the sources, during a call organized by U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio with European national security advisers, Witkoff clarified that Putin was not offering to withdraw from Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts.

    Reuters also reports that Witkoff — a real estate mogul with no previous diplomatic experience — went to the meeting with Putin without a U.S. State Department notetaker, thus breaking standard protocol and not having a record of Putin’s proposals.

    The level of utter stupidity and incompetence continues to astound me.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
    11·
    15 hours ago

    What a clown.

    Anyhow…

    Of course Ukraine is tired of war, but Russia is more tired. Worn out, stretched so thin you can see rock bottom in places.

    Ukraine giving up territory to Russia now, for a quick peace, would be incredibly dumb. It would invalidate most of the fighting of the past years.

    • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      15 hours ago

      It’s sad but true, this is not the time to seize temporary comfort. A lot of pain would have been saved if a harder stance was taken a decade ago, but it’s not too late to make more of the same mistakes.

  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.socialEnglish
    12·
    16 hours ago

    With Trump and his sycophantic appointed hacks, “If you hire clowns, you get a circus.” has never held more true.