Unfortunately, Fascism won because it’s controlling our country. Pointing to fascist and calling them out for cheating will not make fascist stop being fascist.
I’ll be honest, I haven’t looked into the election stuff much because I see it as an effort that goes nowhere. Even if I think it very likely.
Like, we’re black bagging people and shipping them to foreign countrys prisons. Like, if we can’t rally people around resistance to that then how are we going to make people care about election results in a system most people feel like has never worked in the first place?
Fascism is here BECAUSE this “democracys” structures are meant to serve the wealthy and ruling class. That’s how they were written since this nations foundation. This time it was just in your face so plainly because they realized they dont need to pretend anymore.
The people of this country don’t need election investigations to understand that the system is not democratic. They’ve felt that their entire lives in some way or another.
Trump made the ruling class of America realize they didn’t have to keep pretending the systems were democratic. Literally spitting on the ballots is not what brought us here. Its just the point we finally reached.
Subpoena of NSA report followed by recounts. Making more of an international pariah of the USA in the short term and providing a legitimate route for removing the current regime.
That’s the super short version for someone fundamentally disinterested in objective truth like yourself. Lemmy.ml …
So, you think a vote manipulation scandal will be the shift in the international view people have of the US?
You don’t think it wasn’t already lost entirely by the multiple Genocides it’s supporting, trade wars with its allies, and general human rights violations of anyone within its borders?
I am just trying to fathom how people with the “Harris actually won” view are pushing this for anything other than to overcome their own personal embarrassment. Or they actually are naive enough to think we’ll be “going back to normal once Trump is gone” and want to ensure the system still “works”.
Finding out that Fascism cheated it’s way into power is not going to change anything about fascism. I think people that are focused on this voting scandal around Harris completely miss the point that fascism will not return it’s power after 4 years.
You should be more focused on working locally to resist ICE. Because the next election is going to “ensure no voter fraud” with armed ICE agents intimidating anyone with even a slightly brown complexion that tries to vote.
Cute. You sound like the exact type of person that doesn’t like to have their simple minded view of the world challenged. Thanks for letting me know it’s not worth anymore of my time.
Unfortunately, Fascism won because it’s controlling our country. Pointing to fascist and calling them out for cheating will not make fascist stop being fascist.
I’ll be honest, I haven’t looked into the election stuff much because I see it as an effort that goes nowhere. Even if I think it very likely.
Like, we’re black bagging people and shipping them to foreign countrys prisons. Like, if we can’t rally people around resistance to that then how are we going to make people care about election results in a system most people feel like has never worked in the first place?
Fascism is here BECAUSE this “democracys” structures are meant to serve the wealthy and ruling class. That’s how they were written since this nations foundation. This time it was just in your face so plainly because they realized they dont need to pretend anymore.
The people of this country don’t need election investigations to understand that the system is not democratic. They’ve felt that their entire lives in some way or another.
Trump made the ruling class of America realize they didn’t have to keep pretending the systems were democratic. Literally spitting on the ballots is not what brought us here. Its just the point we finally reached.
Consider for a moment Trump dies or is removed over Epstein. JD Vance can’t keep the show going.
More important than that consider the international implications. The illegitimacy has cost.
There’s an NSA report to be subpoenaed. There may still be physical ballots to count.
Cool. It’s not going to amount to anything. You can quote me on it.
Being stuck with a bunch of defeatists is a handicap but it’s fine, you don’t have a use here.
I’m genuinely curious what you think the end result of or even goal of this would be? Like in your mind what is the scenario that plays out to you?
Subpoena of NSA report followed by recounts. Making more of an international pariah of the USA in the short term and providing a legitimate route for removing the current regime.
That’s the super short version for someone fundamentally disinterested in objective truth like yourself. Lemmy.ml …
So, you think a vote manipulation scandal will be the shift in the international view people have of the US?
You don’t think it wasn’t already lost entirely by the multiple Genocides it’s supporting, trade wars with its allies, and general human rights violations of anyone within its borders?
I am just trying to fathom how people with the “Harris actually won” view are pushing this for anything other than to overcome their own personal embarrassment. Or they actually are naive enough to think we’ll be “going back to normal once Trump is gone” and want to ensure the system still “works”.
Finding out that Fascism cheated it’s way into power is not going to change anything about fascism. I think people that are focused on this voting scandal around Harris completely miss the point that fascism will not return it’s power after 4 years.
You should be more focused on working locally to resist ICE. Because the next election is going to “ensure no voter fraud” with armed ICE agents intimidating anyone with even a slightly brown complexion that tries to vote.
You aren’t worth the time to read another 4 paragraphs. Sorry to have given you the impression I cared.
Cute. You sound like the exact type of person that doesn’t like to have their simple minded view of the world challenged. Thanks for letting me know it’s not worth anymore of my time.