All that coal was created from trees, which are younger than sharks. Nature wasn’t burning then, will not be burning soon. Nature will survive, it’s the industrial farming that will be difficult.
I thought so too but with the warming trends we are experiencing at unprecedented rates the planet does not have time to adapt as well. We are now looking at a possible Venus scenario if this warming continues at this rate. If we look closely we are still increasing our load on the planet and thus increasing the speed of the cycle. Meaning all flora would not have the thousands of years to adapt to the warming as it has previously in earth’s history.
We may just kill every live thing on the entire planet because of our greed.
We don’t really have to do anything extra. The CO2 alone is already acidifying the ocean in addition to the temperature increases that also kill things.
Well yeah sure. And the entire Earth could be vaporized and the rest of the universe wouldn’t be affected at all. It’s all about what context and scope we want to discuss.
Most of the CO2 in coal was trapped 300 million years ago. I am going to assume without further research that we as a civilization would absolutely not like to return to the atmosphere composition of 300,000,000 BCE.
I know. Cry me a river as you take yourselves out, right? If we take most of the biosphere with us though, that’s even more tragic on top of everything.
There are always algues and fish unless we go out of our way and poison the ocean.
You mean like the Pacific garbage patch? Or the numerous “spills” and effluent pipes that feed directly into the ocean? Perhaps the excessive overfishing or whaling or shark finning? Ocean drilling? Deep water mining? I think we’ve already got that killing the oceans thing managed.
There is of course always a chance something will survive.
Edit: like this fucking horse tail I’m fighting in my garden that’s been around for millennia. Dinosaurs walked on that shit. Makes a great addition to fertilizer but God damn already…
There will always be some who will get their thrills off abusing actual humans and not robots. Pedo types, like those names of power hiding in the Epstein files.
Not OP but out current implementations of LLMs and similar models are just fundementally incapable of true reasoning, we can keep pumping money into them with diminishing returns but its never going to turn into AGI. Maybe not the best example but LLMs are like bronze, pretty good but no matter how much better you get at bronze working its just never going to allow for the things that could be done with more advanced metalurgy. Right now the big names are pouring money into bronze and no one is figuring out how to smelt iron.
Using imprecise terms like AI make it impossible to know. Do you mean than machine learning/neural networks can make robots adaptive enough to pick oranges and butcher chickens, or do you think LLMs are going to get “smart” enough to become AGI?
Robots are great for situations that don’t require adaptations. Anything that requires novel choices will require humans for the foreseeable future.
AI will progress in that future.
We’re gonna burn up the planet with energy use for AI before that happens
All that coal was created from trees, which are younger than sharks. Nature wasn’t burning then, will not be burning soon. Nature will survive, it’s the industrial farming that will be difficult.
I thought so too but with the warming trends we are experiencing at unprecedented rates the planet does not have time to adapt as well. We are now looking at a possible Venus scenario if this warming continues at this rate. If we look closely we are still increasing our load on the planet and thus increasing the speed of the cycle. Meaning all flora would not have the thousands of years to adapt to the warming as it has previously in earth’s history.
We may just kill every live thing on the entire planet because of our greed.
There are always algues and fish unless we go out of our way and poison the ocean.
But I can’t imagine that no plant will adapt or is already adapted. Some palm trees, some weed will survive.
We don’t really have to do anything extra. The CO2 alone is already acidifying the ocean in addition to the temperature increases that also kill things.
Nothing that can’t have been before, when all the coal that is still in the ground was free CO2.
Downvoters, is this wrong? I need to know. Please correct me.
Well yeah sure. And the entire Earth could be vaporized and the rest of the universe wouldn’t be affected at all. It’s all about what context and scope we want to discuss.
Most of the CO2 in coal was trapped 300 million years ago. I am going to assume without further research that we as a civilization would absolutely not like to return to the atmosphere composition of 300,000,000 BCE.
I know. Cry me a river as you take yourselves out, right? If we take most of the biosphere with us though, that’s even more tragic on top of everything.
We’re doing that regularly now.
You mean like the Pacific garbage patch? Or the numerous “spills” and effluent pipes that feed directly into the ocean? Perhaps the excessive overfishing or whaling or shark finning? Ocean drilling? Deep water mining? I think we’ve already got that killing the oceans thing managed.
There is of course always a chance something will survive.
Edit: like this fucking horse tail I’m fighting in my garden that’s been around for millennia. Dinosaurs walked on that shit. Makes a great addition to fertilizer but God damn already…
Eventually, but quickly enough.
There will always be some who will get their thrills off abusing actual humans and not robots. Pedo types, like those names of power hiding in the Epstein files.
Alternately: hollowing out our educational systems will diminish human capabilities in this realm
It’s a ten year race against China. Education won’t have much of an influence.
Not the stuff we have now. True AI is still a long way off.
Ah, the perfect reminder that people on Lemmy can be just as big of dipshits as people on reddit were.
Do you just not like AI or do you have a reason to believe that there won’t be significant progress?
Not OP but out current implementations of LLMs and similar models are just fundementally incapable of true reasoning, we can keep pumping money into them with diminishing returns but its never going to turn into AGI. Maybe not the best example but LLMs are like bronze, pretty good but no matter how much better you get at bronze working its just never going to allow for the things that could be done with more advanced metalurgy. Right now the big names are pouring money into bronze and no one is figuring out how to smelt iron.
By smelting bronze one learns about ores and sooner or later discovers iron ore.
The processes matter, the data, the teams.
Using imprecise terms like AI make it impossible to know. Do you mean than machine learning/neural networks can make robots adaptive enough to pick oranges and butcher chickens, or do you think LLMs are going to get “smart” enough to become AGI?
Both. Many resources are put into the former which inevitably will lead to somebody having an insight for the latter.